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hey first good evening and welcome to

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uh got a few of the the folks from the

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fans of Masters Fortune research team

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joined Missy and we're going to talk

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so I hope you enjoy it then we're going

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to start off Carter Bouchard who has

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been an investigator with BFRO for the

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last 13 years originally from Texas and

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currently lives in Missouri he has had

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nearly 100 reports published in the BFRO

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website and has interviewed over 400

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Witnesses and Counting he is an

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experienced Outdoorsman and trained as

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an investigator for mufon he studied

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herpetology in college long time special

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interest in Sasquatch long-term

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habituation sites burial research

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infrasound language and stick structures

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he has a true boots on the ground

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researcher and investigator and not a

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desktop Warrior he has met and visited

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the properties of nearly half of the

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witnesses whose reports have been

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published he monitors and visits several

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properties with ongoing habituation

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activity to this day he's the author of

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Five Books Sasquatch evidence of the

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Enigma one two three and second dishes

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of his first two books Carter is the

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active member of fans of monster 14's

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research team his website can be found

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Thomas Carroll is a resident of Somerset

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County Pennsylvania is an avid

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Outdoorsman and Hunter he joined

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families of monsters 14 research about a

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year ago and has already been involved

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with several investigations in Western

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Pennsylvania Thomas also hosts the

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Forgotten faces podcast which focuses on

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the Korean War

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and Chad M reading grew up in the Pigeon

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Hills region of Western York County

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Pennsylvania

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a lifetime of rooming the woods Hills

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and howls LED Chad to develop his

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passion skills as a Woodsman

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very very much an avid lover of old

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traditional ways and old things he his

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love of the forest and mountains no no

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bounds for he has camped rambled

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gathered canoed and fished in all four

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as a lover of the local history and

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folklore Wonder of Forgotten places and

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lifelong experiencer of the strange

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Chad also contributes to and works with

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familiars podcast Chad has also an

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active member of fans of monsters

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Chad became the proprietor of rock

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rabbit Outdoors a company that supplies

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old style crafted curated and

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refurbished and super Surplus geared to

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the woods Oak community so gentlemen

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well you're quite welcome

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you're going to get everybody up here

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Vincent I guess he did okay good thanks

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for having me yeah I'm glad you all made

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it's been kind of busy I mean you know

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then when I see busy for me it's mostly

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what's going on in Chicago but I'm going

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to go around the horn here uh Carter

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give us an idea of what you've been up

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to what you've been looking to recently

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well uh my habituation uh properties I

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manage uh or monitor let's just say four

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of them and one of them is off the

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charts crazy busy it's kept me it can be

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pretty busy since July when they had all

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still do have a lot of stuff going on

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but it uh that's been occupied most of

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my time and I just released my book so I

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just finished it

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three weeks ago I mean I literally I've

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been working on it since October and so

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I just got done with that so you know

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the winter I just kind of hibernated and

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wrote and monitored this uh bizarre

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place I have oh there's another one

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that's the other place I'm monitoring uh

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that's crazy right now uh that's uh I

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can't tell you where it is but

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um that book cover right there uh that's

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got a lot a very interesting story

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behind it the basically uh there's four

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the hunter the landowner walking

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checking his cameras

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four seconds later that Sasquatch

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appeared right isn't that right yeah

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look at the time date stamp it's like a

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3 12 in the afternoon and

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36 seconds the handprint is 312

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interesting it's the same place you can

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see the shadow beneath the hand you can

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see the shadow beneath the uh the hunter

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you can see the log laying in the

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background you see the log laying in the

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background there uh

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I've been there I've been there twice

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you know and uh I think Hulu actually we

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we taped the show that never was going

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mostly due to infighting with the

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production people I mean it was just it

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was a mess you know it's a it's a long

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story I mean it's very nice been there

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yeah you know uh you know somebody took

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over uh the uh filming

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uh halfway through and it screwed it all

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up so anyway but uh so that's what I've

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been doing the last six eight months is

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finishing that book right there you're

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looking at and there's something really

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awesome stories in there among others

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but uh uh that's what I've been up to

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pretty crazy stuff though actually it's

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it's pretty exciting you know

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and uh so uh uh they have ongoing

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activity they had chased a Sasquatch out

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of

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Quonset hut I'll call it it's they have

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three uh big buildings that are uh

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basically uh

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what do you call them they're they're

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vegetable growing uh they're growing

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vegetables in the winter so there's

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three uh basically uh tents in a row

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they're long uh tents uh with arched

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roof and uh you know heavy plastic got

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heaters in them uh to grow but they uh

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they have

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five or six Sasquatch monitoring their

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property they're standing there watching

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them literally standing behind the tree

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or standing out next to the tree just

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watching my people

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work their land I mean they're just they

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have no fear and this is in Missouri

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yeah I can't say I can't say wherever

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yeah I I get it yeah I understand yeah

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that's Missouri here's here's the thing

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uh the

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has had two sightings class A's and now

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he has the son and two or three other

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and they all have activity on their

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respective properties

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and so

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it's just crazy you know I mean you know

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I went and met everybody and there was

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like nine people in there I I couldn't I

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couldn't believe it they all just show

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me all these pictures and photos and

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stuff and I'm just oh my God

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I think I just hit the Powerball my

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goodness it was really it was awesome I

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mean they were just so energetic and

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excited and to have somebody down there

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you know and uh you know the the

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neighborhood has kind of ostracized them

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a little bit where they live

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but uh the stories are just

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Fantastical you know so

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um I've been down there twice and I'm

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going back again because we got to

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figure out a way to get uh camera traps

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set

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uh but some of the if we have time later

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maybe uh some of the photos uh okay I've

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sent them to uh Vince so he's got them

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but anyway that's what I've been up to

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okay finish the book and uh this thing

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fell in my lap as I was halfway through

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the book I mean I didn't even know these

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people right so a former witness who's

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knows them you know he's had two

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Sasquatch he's at two of my reports are

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class A visual face-to-face encounters

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with the Sasquatch you know one when he

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was up in a blind and when he was just

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standing there face to face you know 30

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40 feet away from each other this is

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crazy stuff but these people are

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attracted

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to these simple hard-working folks you

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know they they don't kill for sport they

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kill to feed their families

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um they they have Sasquatch on their

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property monitoring what's going on this

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family that uh where I got this here in

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Missouri they have three family members

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each with their own activity on their

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own properties so there's like and

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they're all related or know each other

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very well so there's like five people

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five separate properties all within

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about three or four mile area uh having

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all sorts of just crazy stuff I mean

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it's just

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they walk around like they they own the

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place and they do I mean they come and

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go you can watch them watching them you

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know it's it's just bizarre but that's

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what it's like when you're in a rural

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area in these Sasquatch trust you they

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come and they go the people come and go

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they took pictures they you know they

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try to take pictures I've got some

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pretty good photos uh which you might

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see later but it's just uh it's just

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bizarre and phenomenal that these beings

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there's five Sasquatch on that property

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that I'm speaking of

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and they

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they this they they see them all the

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time daily if they want to I mean it's

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just

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because they're in the middle of nowhere

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it's fantastic you know it's this is one

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of the best

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habituation families I've met so far and

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I've got two or three others that are

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pretty much off the charts but this

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one's this one's starting to take the

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cake we only see some of those photos

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it's mind-blowing anyway

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well um now Thomas and and Chad uh are

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part of the Pennsylvania team here and

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uh they've been doing some things I

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don't know if Chad's had a case that

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he's been part of one but uh which we're

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gonna look into I'm gonna talk about but

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Thomas he had an investigation up in

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Cambria County so why don't you give us

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a an Overlook of what you you saw up

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there well we went up there uh twice I

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went up in the spring

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and then later on in the summer in the

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first the first one in the spring

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we had actually found a several day old

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uh Bigfoot print and the witnesses there

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had

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uh several encounters over a short span

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in that very area and have had many

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encounters over the years which the

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Wilmore the Wilmore Reservoir site kind

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of seems to be a hotbed

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for canines now we

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I didn't find any sign of canines but we

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did see sign of Bigfoot uh they they had

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said that whatever it was they didn't

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see it they could hear it it was

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definitely walking on two legs

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and it more or less seemed to be just

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following around checking them out

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it never never did anything to have

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never bothered them

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uh

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but we went back in the summer and and

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found no

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no definitive sign there so I I'm of the

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belief that maybe the spring is more

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likely for them

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a migration of some sorts maybe that

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they come and go

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yeah in fact that area is well known for

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cryptic canines I mean we like I said I

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I told you earlier we've had

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well including what you looked into

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that's four sightings up there on that

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Reservoir that's Wilmore Reservoir and

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that's just north of Portage isn't it

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yeah well that area up there it's more

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west of Portage tonight but it's it's

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all within a couple mile area

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and it's it's very heavily wooded

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there's not much there of all Farmland

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like in fact we've never when we were

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there in the spring even uh Bernadette

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had

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an experience of something we're not

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sure what she could hear like something

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rushed up on her yeah I remember I

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I didn't hear it I was I was off to the

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woods a little bit and it

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whatever it was we never saw it but she

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said it was it was big

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like it was trying to just scare us out

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of there

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though

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well you know Butch uh Butch

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investigated a few of the sightings up

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there and in Portage we had three

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sightings right in Portage

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uh back in 20

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to 14 15 around that time

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uh then up there at the Wilmore

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Reservoir and this is all in Cambria

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County

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um we had a white

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cryptic canine sighting

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and it could I mean you know that's what

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they said it was it could have even been

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a Bigfoot I don't know but um you know I

347
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I do know we have had cases you know we

348
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had sightings up or reported to us and

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I've talked to um

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and I've talked to Stan about it he's

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also heard a few things up there so yeah

352
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Cambridge county is kind of a hot spot

353
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for us yeah another Witnesses they said

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their their family had had experiences

355
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uh for years even they said their father

356
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had seen a winged humanoid right at the

357
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reservoir itself years ago yeah

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don't surprise me

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so Chad oh what you been up to I I know

360
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you uh you know we we've been we've

361
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talked before uh you and I were at that

362
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uh Bigfoot meeting up by uh Biglerville

363
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up the other side of uh misho uh so what

364
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you've been looking into lately

365
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well back in October I went camping up

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in Tuscarora State Forest which is about

367
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an hour and a half north from where I'm

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located in York County yeah and I had I

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had a friend of mine well two friends of

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mine come from uh down from Canada

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and uh it was for their podcast and

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partially for ours

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and we spent basically two nights and

374
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three days

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in this place known as uh pandemonium

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which is listed as a ghost town

377
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literally as a ghost town

378
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it used to also be an old CCC camp

379
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and within those two nights we had

380
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multiple phenomenon

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um

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we actually had

383
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on the last night well the first night a

384
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friend of mine was sleeping in his tent

385
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he had something actually poked through

386
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his tent and rubbed the bottom of his

387
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foot which was quite interesting we had

388
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one or two

389
00:18:14,690 --> 00:18:11,280
Uh Wood knocks I guess you could say or

390
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bangs on trees they weren't actual tree

391
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noises we know we know what the tree

392
00:18:22,130 --> 00:18:19,140
noises we had the four guys that were

393
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counting me that were in this

394
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that were in this that were we were all

395
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camping together were all very

396
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experienced outdoorsmen all four of us

397
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so we had a lot of knowledge in that

398
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camp of different regions my friend

399
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Caleb who was from Canada he's been to

400
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the Amazon he's been out to Wyoming

401
00:18:48,350 --> 00:18:45,179
he's been to various places

402
00:18:50,930 --> 00:18:48,360
and um a lot of the the noises we heard

403
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we couldn't explain

404
00:18:54,650 --> 00:18:52,799
on the second night we actually had

405
00:18:56,590 --> 00:18:54,660
something come into camp and we saw it

406
00:19:01,250 --> 00:18:56,600
on the edge of the fire light

407
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the lantern light we had going it was

408
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huge and gray it actually came up behind

409
00:19:09,169 --> 00:19:06,059
my friend Tom's tent

410
00:19:12,470 --> 00:19:09,179
which was pretty darn spooky and then we

411
00:19:14,450 --> 00:19:12,480
had a lot of uh also the typical uh High

412
00:19:17,750 --> 00:19:14,460
strangeness phenomenon

413
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whites in the woods stuff like that

414
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didn't really hear any uh calls though

415
00:19:28,310 --> 00:19:25,380
me and Tim had camped in that area

416
00:19:31,669 --> 00:19:28,320
I think three years ago

417
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two or three years ago and we had we

418
00:19:37,070 --> 00:19:34,440
actually had uh calls in that area me

419
00:19:38,950 --> 00:19:37,080
and Tim were woken up by multiple wooden

420
00:19:41,690 --> 00:19:38,960
wood knocks that night

421
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uh on the second night like I said we

422
00:19:45,230 --> 00:19:43,740
had something come in the camp we

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decided that we were going to walk to

424
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Perimeter to try and you know establish

425
00:19:53,390 --> 00:19:50,460
a perimeter and my friend Caleb is

426
00:19:56,570 --> 00:19:53,400
actually indigenous Canadian

427
00:19:57,950 --> 00:19:56,580
and uh we saw multiple things moving up

428
00:19:59,630 --> 00:19:57,960
and down the hill

429
00:20:01,370 --> 00:19:59,640
because it was it was Moonlight you can

430
00:20:02,570 --> 00:20:01,380
see these things moving up and down we

431
00:20:04,070 --> 00:20:02,580
were camped on the side of a mountain

432
00:20:06,650 --> 00:20:04,080
and you could see it moving up and down

433
00:20:08,330 --> 00:20:06,660
the Mountainside down into a swamp down

434
00:20:10,370 --> 00:20:08,340
below us

435
00:20:12,830 --> 00:20:10,380
we ended up seeing this huge light we

436
00:20:16,490 --> 00:20:12,840
have no idea what it was it was it was

437
00:20:18,770 --> 00:20:16,500
bright it was I was

438
00:20:21,770 --> 00:20:18,780
I would say almost from my perspective

439
00:20:24,169 --> 00:20:21,780
for the distance it was probably about

440
00:20:26,150 --> 00:20:24,179
I would guess

441
00:20:27,650 --> 00:20:26,160
quarter of a mile away or something like

442
00:20:28,970 --> 00:20:27,660
that but you could see it lit up the

443
00:20:30,770 --> 00:20:28,980
whole Woods it was just look it looked

444
00:20:32,630 --> 00:20:30,780
like somebody was had a spotlight

445
00:20:34,850 --> 00:20:32,640
through a crystal and there was multiple

446
00:20:36,470 --> 00:20:34,860
beams coming up and you could just see

447
00:20:38,029 --> 00:20:36,480
it traveling through the woods down in

448
00:20:40,250 --> 00:20:38,039
the valley which was basically a swamp

449
00:20:42,529 --> 00:20:40,260
it was just this big bright white light

450
00:20:44,230 --> 00:20:42,539
there was nobody in that area at all

451
00:20:47,270 --> 00:20:44,240
there's no roads that go through there

452
00:20:50,390 --> 00:20:47,280
the the trees and the bushes were all

453
00:20:53,270 --> 00:20:50,400
lit up by this and then it just went out

454
00:20:55,370 --> 00:20:53,280
and then this this you'll like uh

455
00:20:57,350 --> 00:20:55,380
towards the end there's a spot where it

456
00:20:59,450 --> 00:20:57,360
kind of comes down it evens out and then

457
00:21:01,490 --> 00:20:59,460
there's a rock formations and it drops

458
00:21:03,590 --> 00:21:01,500
down I don't want to say a cliff but

459
00:21:05,390 --> 00:21:03,600
it's like a steep drop down into the uh

460
00:21:07,610 --> 00:21:05,400
where the swamp is where the creek runs

461
00:21:10,310 --> 00:21:07,620
through the valley and this is a this is

462
00:21:12,289 --> 00:21:10,320
a narrow Valley between two mountains

463
00:21:14,930 --> 00:21:12,299
and uh

464
00:21:18,350 --> 00:21:14,940
he saw what he said

465
00:21:20,810 --> 00:21:18,360
it's all something humanoid stand up

466
00:21:23,090 --> 00:21:20,820
lift its arms up or wings and then just

467
00:21:26,750 --> 00:21:23,100
go straight up into the sky is that

468
00:21:29,330 --> 00:21:26,760
right yes yes and all this was over the

469
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course of basically two days and three

470
00:21:34,370 --> 00:21:32,400
nights uh during the day we we thought

471
00:21:37,669 --> 00:21:34,380
we'd seen some weird rhombus shapes

472
00:21:38,450 --> 00:21:37,679
moving through the woods

473
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um

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up in the uh trees

475
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so which was kind of bizarre but we had

476
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that uh

477
00:21:52,250 --> 00:21:50,700
we have there's just one encounter down

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below York

479
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and Lake Redmond that we're going to be

480
00:21:58,430 --> 00:21:55,500
checking into

481
00:22:00,890 --> 00:21:58,440
a man had a an encounter with a

482
00:22:02,810 --> 00:22:00,900
Sasquatch which is pretty unusual

483
00:22:05,930 --> 00:22:02,820
because you know that area it's not Deep

484
00:22:10,130 --> 00:22:05,940
Woods at all well but I we have had

485
00:22:11,090 --> 00:22:10,140
sightings down there and uh uh there's a

486
00:22:12,590 --> 00:22:11,100
um

487
00:22:14,390 --> 00:22:12,600
for people who don't know York

488
00:22:16,730 --> 00:22:14,400
Pennsylvania you know it's it's just

489
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north of Maryland line but down there

490
00:22:22,310 --> 00:22:19,320
Lake Redmond I guess that's the water

491
00:22:24,110 --> 00:22:22,320
reservoir for York City yeah it's one of

492
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one of the reservoirs is actually like

493
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two or three lakes that kind of join

494
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each other right and it's kind of

495
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State Park lines or county park lands

496
00:22:36,470 --> 00:22:34,080
well there have been there had been a

497
00:22:38,870 --> 00:22:36,480
lot of sightings even down closer to and

498
00:22:41,090 --> 00:22:38,880
you know Tim knows this because Tim went

499
00:22:43,190 --> 00:22:41,100
down to Maryland so he he knows there's

500
00:22:46,789 --> 00:22:43,200
been a lot of sightings near the uh

501
00:22:48,529 --> 00:22:46,799
Mason-Dixon line and uh yeah we get a

502
00:22:50,630 --> 00:22:48,539
lot of crazy stuff around here well

503
00:22:53,090 --> 00:22:50,640
we've had a lot of activities down in

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00:22:56,390 --> 00:22:53,100
there yeah especially especially in the

505
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one spot we call because these Woods

506
00:23:03,770 --> 00:22:58,620
um uh I just recently just this weekend

507
00:23:07,909 --> 00:23:03,780
had a gentleman contact me and he had a

508
00:23:10,250 --> 00:23:07,919
a sighting back in 2008 in Michelle stay

509
00:23:11,510 --> 00:23:10,260
forced which you know is one of my is

510
00:23:15,470 --> 00:23:11,520
one of my

511
00:23:18,110 --> 00:23:15,480
normal rambling spots and now this is

512
00:23:21,110 --> 00:23:18,120
older but basically he was camping down

513
00:23:22,330 --> 00:23:21,120
in a ridge and and he was one of these

514
00:23:24,950 --> 00:23:22,340
guys that do the Long Hunter

515
00:23:26,930 --> 00:23:24,960
reenactments so basically they were

516
00:23:29,270 --> 00:23:26,940
sleeping that with with wool blankets by

517
00:23:31,390 --> 00:23:29,280
a long fire so there was no tent or

518
00:23:34,070 --> 00:23:31,400
anything like that

519
00:23:37,010 --> 00:23:34,080
we're at Amisha do you know the general

520
00:23:39,110 --> 00:23:37,020
area I think he said Newman road so you

521
00:23:42,529 --> 00:23:39,120
think it's from the western side right

522
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and basically they had heard a noise and

523
00:23:47,450 --> 00:23:44,220
then they looked over and the woods was

524
00:23:49,010 --> 00:23:47,460
lit up with like a bluish light and then

525
00:23:50,990 --> 00:23:49,020
they were hearing the garbled noises

526
00:23:52,490 --> 00:23:51,000
which he said later on he went back and

527
00:23:54,409 --> 00:23:52,500
he checked over and it was similar to

528
00:23:57,350 --> 00:23:54,419
the samurai speech

529
00:23:59,149 --> 00:23:57,360
so oh my God I hear about that so many

530
00:24:01,730 --> 00:23:59,159
times people talking about that that

531
00:24:04,310 --> 00:24:01,740
Samurai speech Courtney have you ever

532
00:24:08,029 --> 00:24:04,320
heard that from anybody any Witnesses

533
00:24:11,930 --> 00:24:08,039
uh I've heard it myself oh have you yeah

534
00:24:13,430 --> 00:24:11,940
I went to I was having a rough week and

535
00:24:15,470 --> 00:24:13,440
I told my wife I'm gonna go down to my

536
00:24:18,049 --> 00:24:15,480
research area Ellington Missouri from

537
00:24:19,370 --> 00:24:18,059
get away and go and I had all my

538
00:24:22,070 --> 00:24:19,380
equipment and everything when I got

539
00:24:23,630 --> 00:24:22,080
there I said you know screw it I don't I

540
00:24:26,090 --> 00:24:23,640
don't want to put my equipment out so I

541
00:24:29,690 --> 00:24:26,100
sat there on the fire I had had a bad

542
00:24:31,850 --> 00:24:29,700
week and uh hours just drinking at the

543
00:24:33,830 --> 00:24:31,860
fire and had all my equipment sitting

544
00:24:36,350 --> 00:24:33,840
out and I told the

545
00:24:38,029 --> 00:24:36,360
the Sasquatch that says it said hey guys

546
00:24:40,070 --> 00:24:38,039
I'm here

547
00:24:42,830 --> 00:24:40,080
I don't have any cameras up I'm not

548
00:24:44,510 --> 00:24:42,840
doing anything I'm just sitting here

549
00:24:48,169 --> 00:24:44,520
I've had a bad week if you want to come

550
00:24:50,390 --> 00:24:48,179
talk to me throw a rock do something I'm

551
00:24:52,570 --> 00:24:50,400
here otherwise that's it there's no

552
00:24:54,830 --> 00:24:52,580
equipment there's no cameras

553
00:24:56,630 --> 00:24:54,840
just don't hit me with the rock though

554
00:24:59,810 --> 00:24:56,640
right yeah just don't hit me with the

555
00:25:03,490 --> 00:24:59,820
rock and so I hear this what did you go

556
00:25:06,409 --> 00:25:03,500
oh yeah what

557
00:25:08,930 --> 00:25:06,419
just bizarre stuff and I knew what it

558
00:25:11,810 --> 00:25:08,940
was but this is an area where I can go

559
00:25:13,850 --> 00:25:11,820
90 of the time I'm going to have some

560
00:25:16,850 --> 00:25:13,860
kind of activity so I heard that chatter

561
00:25:19,490 --> 00:25:16,860
it was just it was a million miles an

562
00:25:22,010 --> 00:25:19,500
hour and it didn't make and there was

563
00:25:24,169 --> 00:25:22,020
some laughing they were like laughing

564
00:25:26,570 --> 00:25:24,179
like kind of like hyenas

565
00:25:28,669 --> 00:25:26,580
you know snickering you know and like

566
00:25:30,409 --> 00:25:28,679
they were trying to hide it and then

567
00:25:32,390 --> 00:25:30,419
they would just laugh out loud it was

568
00:25:34,370 --> 00:25:32,400
just bizarre I almost thought it was

569
00:25:37,610 --> 00:25:34,380
juveniles you know because it you know

570
00:25:41,570 --> 00:25:37,620
the the tonality of the voice was it

571
00:25:43,909 --> 00:25:41,580
large so I've heard that you know yeah

572
00:25:48,130 --> 00:25:43,919
and Ron you know did commentary on my

573
00:25:51,890 --> 00:25:48,140
first book I mean he's like the guy for

574
00:25:55,310 --> 00:25:51,900
that that [\h__\h] chatter that that

575
00:25:57,529 --> 00:25:55,320
language but I've heard it other people

576
00:26:01,070 --> 00:25:57,539
have heard of several of my Witnesses

577
00:26:04,970 --> 00:26:01,080
have had their names called yeah

578
00:26:07,850 --> 00:26:04,980
it's the Romantic nickname that their

579
00:26:09,890 --> 00:26:07,860
spouses call them when they're it's them

580
00:26:15,110 --> 00:26:09,900
around the house you hear this since

581
00:26:17,269 --> 00:26:15,120
then since in chin chin which is Cindy

582
00:26:19,490 --> 00:26:17,279
since it because that's what his wife is

583
00:26:21,110 --> 00:26:19,500
this what her husband calls her like you

584
00:26:24,230 --> 00:26:21,120
know when there's just them around the

585
00:26:26,390 --> 00:26:24,240
house so yeah I've heard it it's it's

586
00:26:28,930 --> 00:26:26,400
like a real thing they have a language

587
00:26:33,049 --> 00:26:31,490
just tell me the same thing I mean I've

588
00:26:35,810 --> 00:26:33,059
never heard it but I mean I've had

589
00:26:37,810 --> 00:26:35,820
Witnesses tell me about it you know uh

590
00:26:41,590 --> 00:26:37,820
Chad I want to ask you this

591
00:26:43,669 --> 00:26:41,600
uh you talked about a CCC camp

592
00:26:45,890 --> 00:26:43,679
and uh

593
00:26:47,630 --> 00:26:45,900
and for people don't know what CCC is

594
00:26:49,810 --> 00:26:47,640
that I forget what it stood for

595
00:26:52,549 --> 00:26:49,820
conference conservations

596
00:26:56,090 --> 00:26:52,559
the CCC was the Civilian Conservation

597
00:26:58,130 --> 00:26:56,100
course exactly it was during the 19th

598
00:27:00,350 --> 00:26:58,140
1930s during the Great Depression they

599
00:27:02,990 --> 00:27:00,360
were establishing to put men to work and

600
00:27:05,690 --> 00:27:03,000
a lot of Pennsylvania state forests and

601
00:27:07,789 --> 00:27:05,700
state parks were created then well

602
00:27:10,490 --> 00:27:07,799
that's what I wanted to mention to you

603
00:27:13,730 --> 00:27:10,500
because I know there's one up in Misha

604
00:27:16,370 --> 00:27:13,740
yeah I've been there and that's that

605
00:27:18,649 --> 00:27:16,380
actually they used that for a pow camp

606
00:27:21,710 --> 00:27:18,659
for German prisoners award during World

607
00:27:23,210 --> 00:27:21,720
War II yeah I've actually recorded

608
00:27:25,850 --> 00:27:23,220
something crazy if you've ever been up

609
00:27:26,630 --> 00:27:25,860
there I've been there numerous times

610
00:27:29,029 --> 00:27:26,640
um

611
00:27:31,669 --> 00:27:29,039
yeah we're also we're currently working

612
00:27:32,690 --> 00:27:31,679
on something that has been happening

613
00:27:34,730 --> 00:27:32,700
there

614
00:27:37,010 --> 00:27:34,740
and uh

615
00:27:39,049 --> 00:27:37,020
I've recorded some crazy stuff there and

616
00:27:41,750 --> 00:27:39,059
I've camped there and have some odd

617
00:27:45,289 --> 00:27:41,760
bizarre things happen there so yeah it's

618
00:27:48,590 --> 00:27:45,299
definitely a active area

619
00:27:51,769 --> 00:27:48,600
um whether it's I don't know if it's

620
00:27:54,110 --> 00:27:51,779
paranormal you know Cryptid whatever

621
00:27:56,090 --> 00:27:54,120
there's been multiple things that have

622
00:27:58,549 --> 00:27:56,100
happened I've heard a few things over

623
00:28:00,649 --> 00:27:58,559
there um I've heard I've heard Bigfoot

624
00:28:03,230 --> 00:28:00,659
and uh you know Bigfoot sightings around

625
00:28:05,210 --> 00:28:03,240
there and what you know if anybody knows

626
00:28:06,710 --> 00:28:05,220
Misha you get Bigfoot sightings here and

627
00:28:09,830 --> 00:28:06,720
there everywhere I mean you know it's

628
00:28:11,690 --> 00:28:09,840
just uh of course people will know that

629
00:28:13,549 --> 00:28:11,700
the Appalachian Trail runs right in the

630
00:28:16,010 --> 00:28:13,559
middle of that thing North and South

631
00:28:19,190 --> 00:28:16,020
the actual halfway halfway point is

632
00:28:20,029 --> 00:28:19,200
there also yeah for the at

633
00:28:21,529 --> 00:28:20,039
um

634
00:28:25,850 --> 00:28:21,539
yeah

635
00:28:28,549 --> 00:28:25,860
mentioned something about dead woman's

636
00:28:30,950 --> 00:28:28,559
howl and uh it's we had a we had an

637
00:28:35,029 --> 00:28:30,960
upright canine setting up there

638
00:28:38,149 --> 00:28:35,039
and uh uh Butch and I looked into

639
00:28:40,490 --> 00:28:38,159
so uh yeah Misha and Deadwood Hollow is

640
00:28:42,649 --> 00:28:40,500
it it's an area up off the uh the pine

641
00:28:46,310 --> 00:28:42,659
Furnace Road that goes north

642
00:28:50,230 --> 00:28:46,320
uh from Khaled from Caledonia up North

643
00:28:54,049 --> 00:28:50,240
into the cabin areas into uh Laurel Lake

644
00:28:56,510 --> 00:28:54,059
but uh yeah that's uh

645
00:28:59,090 --> 00:28:56,520
yeah we've had we've had

646
00:29:00,950 --> 00:28:59,100
upright K-9 doll man encounters there as

647
00:29:03,590 --> 00:29:00,960
well Misha is an interesting place it

648
00:29:04,610 --> 00:29:03,600
really is it is it's got a lot of

649
00:29:07,010 --> 00:29:04,620
history

650
00:29:09,710 --> 00:29:07,020
um I mean even as far back as the

651
00:29:11,690 --> 00:29:09,720
indigenous peoples because there was

652
00:29:13,750 --> 00:29:11,700
actually uh it's very much been

653
00:29:16,669 --> 00:29:13,760
disturbed land for a lot of its history

654
00:29:18,649 --> 00:29:16,679
uh there's actually an Old Quarry that

655
00:29:21,350 --> 00:29:18,659
the indigenous peoples would Quarry Rio

656
00:29:22,970 --> 00:29:21,360
light out which is a material they would

657
00:29:25,070 --> 00:29:22,980
use for uh

658
00:29:28,070 --> 00:29:25,080
you know weapons and tools and it was

659
00:29:28,970 --> 00:29:28,080
traded all up and down the East Coast

660
00:29:32,210 --> 00:29:28,980
um

661
00:29:34,250 --> 00:29:32,220
the indigenous people's fault fault for

662
00:29:36,230 --> 00:29:34,260
control that land

663
00:29:38,450 --> 00:29:36,240
um I re so far my re I have an interest

664
00:29:40,010 --> 00:29:38,460
in the iron furnaces and I think I've

665
00:29:42,049 --> 00:29:40,020
I've covered

666
00:29:44,210 --> 00:29:42,059
I found

667
00:29:46,430 --> 00:29:44,220
remains well I've only found remains of

668
00:29:48,590 --> 00:29:46,440
five but I I know there's seven or eight

669
00:29:50,450 --> 00:29:48,600
of them up there and probably more yeah

670
00:29:51,889 --> 00:29:50,460
there are a lot of them up there and

671
00:29:54,350 --> 00:29:51,899
there's for some reason there's like

672
00:29:58,070 --> 00:29:54,360
some kind of connection with like

673
00:29:59,810 --> 00:29:58,080
the other and Cryptids and these iron

674
00:30:02,930 --> 00:29:59,820
furnaces whether it's just

675
00:30:04,789 --> 00:30:02,940
synchronicities or what but it's just

676
00:30:06,950 --> 00:30:04,799
it's just you seem to find some kind of

677
00:30:10,070 --> 00:30:06,960
like at least in our area yeah because

678
00:30:11,750 --> 00:30:10,080
we are we are close lawn Yeah in our in

679
00:30:13,669 --> 00:30:11,760
our area you seem to find like

680
00:30:15,769 --> 00:30:13,679
connections between these iron furnaces

681
00:30:18,889 --> 00:30:15,779
and and these cryptic sightings and so

682
00:30:20,750 --> 00:30:18,899
on yeah you're me and uh you me and Tim

683
00:30:23,810 --> 00:30:20,760
live within 20 miles of each other so

684
00:30:25,130 --> 00:30:23,820
yeah we're yeah we're pretty close yeah

685
00:30:27,710 --> 00:30:25,140
um

686
00:30:29,690 --> 00:30:27,720
yeah that Misha is a weird place I mean

687
00:30:31,789 --> 00:30:29,700
I you know I've I've been up ever since

688
00:30:33,710 --> 00:30:31,799
I was a kid I used to go trout fish I

689
00:30:36,169 --> 00:30:33,720
used to go fly fishing up there

690
00:30:39,430 --> 00:30:36,179
and I've had a few weird experiences but

691
00:30:42,710 --> 00:30:39,440
no you know and you know BFRO actually

692
00:30:44,750 --> 00:30:42,720
recognizes as you know a hot spot the

693
00:30:47,330 --> 00:30:44,760
United States as far as Bigfoot activity

694
00:30:49,190 --> 00:30:47,340
though I I never really thought that

695
00:30:52,669 --> 00:30:49,200
until

696
00:30:53,450 --> 00:30:52,679
getting more and more reports out of

697
00:30:56,389 --> 00:30:53,460
there

698
00:30:59,810 --> 00:30:56,399
uh for people who know the area Route 30

699
00:31:00,470 --> 00:30:59,820
runs right in the you know right below

700
00:31:02,590 --> 00:31:00,480
um

701
00:31:05,450 --> 00:31:02,600
right south of uh

702
00:31:06,889 --> 00:31:05,460
Caledonia but you know it goes in you

703
00:31:10,190 --> 00:31:06,899
know in the middle of one down the

704
00:31:12,950 --> 00:31:10,200
middle but it transects uh Misha State

705
00:31:14,750 --> 00:31:12,960
Forest but people used to tell me at

706
00:31:16,789 --> 00:31:14,760
night they used to see Bigfoot walk out

707
00:31:20,149 --> 00:31:16,799
there and pick up roadkill

708
00:31:22,430 --> 00:31:20,159
on Route 30. so I don't doubt it it went

709
00:31:24,590 --> 00:31:22,440
bad it don't tap yeah it's pretty weird

710
00:31:27,049 --> 00:31:24,600
there's there and then

711
00:31:28,549 --> 00:31:27,059
go ahead I'm sorry no I'm sorry I was

712
00:31:30,889 --> 00:31:28,559
gonna say and then you just have all the

713
00:31:32,870 --> 00:31:30,899
weird place names such as dead dead

714
00:31:34,970 --> 00:31:32,880
woman's Hollow you have haunted hollow

715
00:31:38,510 --> 00:31:34,980
you have devil ant or

716
00:31:40,450 --> 00:31:38,520
devil something Hollow uh Harry Springs

717
00:31:44,090 --> 00:31:40,460
you know which is

718
00:31:47,269 --> 00:31:44,100
h-a-i-r-y not Harry as an h-a-r-r-y

719
00:31:49,010 --> 00:31:47,279
and you know it's just there's just a

720
00:31:50,810 --> 00:31:49,020
lot of weirdness that goes on up there

721
00:31:52,490 --> 00:31:50,820
and it's and it's just not all Cryptid

722
00:31:54,889 --> 00:31:52,500
stuff there's all there's a lot that

723
00:31:57,830 --> 00:31:54,899
just happens up there so I mean I've had

724
00:32:00,230 --> 00:31:57,840
multiple encounters and experiences up

725
00:32:03,470 --> 00:32:00,240
there with and without Tim

726
00:32:05,389 --> 00:32:03,480
and you know it's just I don't know yeah

727
00:32:07,430 --> 00:32:05,399
I mean it's quite a place

728
00:32:09,830 --> 00:32:07,440
I've been going up or all ever since I

729
00:32:11,570 --> 00:32:09,840
was a little kid and uh it's it's always

730
00:32:12,970 --> 00:32:11,580
been weird I got chased out there by the

731
00:32:15,889 --> 00:32:12,980
reservoir one time

732
00:32:17,630 --> 00:32:15,899
uh I I pulled up and I was gonna go up

733
00:32:19,610 --> 00:32:17,640
to the reservoir and I didn't get but

734
00:32:21,649 --> 00:32:19,620
five foot into the the weeds and

735
00:32:23,269 --> 00:32:21,659
something big was coming through and I

736
00:32:26,510 --> 00:32:23,279
got in the car and got the hell out of

737
00:32:29,930 --> 00:32:26,520
there I mean that place it's there's

738
00:32:30,710 --> 00:32:29,940
there's a lot going on up there yeah go

739
00:32:32,990 --> 00:32:30,720
ahead

740
00:32:34,789 --> 00:32:33,000
I said yeah I've been rushed up up there

741
00:32:37,190 --> 00:32:34,799
too I had something come

742
00:32:39,470 --> 00:32:37,200
barreling through the uh

743
00:32:41,450 --> 00:32:39,480
brush at me which and then it ended up

744
00:32:43,370 --> 00:32:41,460
there was nothing there right but there

745
00:32:46,010 --> 00:32:43,380
was it wasn't a bear or a deer or

746
00:32:47,930 --> 00:32:46,020
anything like that so yeah I know I know

747
00:32:51,889 --> 00:32:47,940
the feeling

748
00:32:53,510 --> 00:32:51,899
good yeah uh we had a question here from

749
00:32:56,570 --> 00:32:53,520
King of

750
00:32:59,029 --> 00:32:56,580
Luca Mundo I'm gonna ask Carter or any

751
00:33:02,090 --> 00:32:59,039
any of y'all can answer this how tall

752
00:33:04,549 --> 00:33:02,100
has the how tall has been the size of

753
00:33:05,990 --> 00:33:04,559
the biggest Bigfoot ever recorded that's

754
00:33:08,990 --> 00:33:06,000
kind of a loaded question because

755
00:33:11,990 --> 00:33:09,000
there's so many areas where these hairy

756
00:33:14,630 --> 00:33:12,000
hominids had been recorded but let's

757
00:33:15,409 --> 00:33:14,640
just say in North America what do you

758
00:33:17,090 --> 00:33:15,419
think

759
00:33:20,149 --> 00:33:17,100
um

760
00:33:25,909 --> 00:33:20,159
what do you think Carter uh the biggest

761
00:33:29,870 --> 00:33:25,919
one a witness has described to me is 12

762
00:33:31,389 --> 00:33:29,880
feet okay and she was up in BC uh you

763
00:33:35,690 --> 00:33:31,399
know Canada

764
00:33:38,269 --> 00:33:35,700
the biggest ones that many people say is

765
00:33:42,230 --> 00:33:38,279
you get further and further north into

766
00:33:45,230 --> 00:33:42,240
the Hinterlands of Canada is 15 feet

767
00:33:47,350 --> 00:33:45,240
uh they they are claiming to see them

768
00:33:50,750 --> 00:33:47,360
right and that doesn't seem that

769
00:33:54,289 --> 00:33:50,760
outrageous you know to me but you know

770
00:33:58,370 --> 00:33:54,299
uh 12 feet is the biggest one uh

771
00:34:01,210 --> 00:33:58,380
reported to me and 15 is

772
00:34:05,509 --> 00:34:01,220
traditionally for the

773
00:34:07,850 --> 00:34:05,519
Hinterlands of Canada BC and uh you know

774
00:34:11,149 --> 00:34:07,860
up in that area well we know we've had

775
00:34:14,149 --> 00:34:11,159
reports you know down in um

776
00:34:17,990 --> 00:34:14,159
down in the day Navajo reservation of

777
00:34:19,970 --> 00:34:18,000
these behemoths down there so I mean you

778
00:34:21,950 --> 00:34:19,980
know of course these are indigenous

779
00:34:24,050 --> 00:34:21,960
people that are telling us the size of

780
00:34:26,089 --> 00:34:24,060
these things but some of them swear

781
00:34:28,070 --> 00:34:26,099
anywhere from 12 to 15 foot

782
00:34:29,750 --> 00:34:28,080
so I don't know I mean I don't know what

783
00:34:33,470 --> 00:34:29,760
the hell this is kind of a regular

784
00:34:36,770 --> 00:34:33,480
number you hear for the big big boys you

785
00:34:41,649 --> 00:34:36,780
know yeah and you know along with that

786
00:34:45,710 --> 00:34:41,659
size according to many goes the

787
00:34:49,010 --> 00:34:45,720
paranormal skills and aspects and the

788
00:34:52,010 --> 00:34:49,020
small ones may not have those skills

789
00:34:56,030 --> 00:34:52,020
well that may be and that that may very

790
00:34:58,370 --> 00:34:56,040
well be you get into the 1215 Footers

791
00:35:00,470 --> 00:34:58,380
up there and I've got I've got four

792
00:35:03,109 --> 00:35:00,480
people I communicate with regularly up

793
00:35:05,150 --> 00:35:03,119
there uh they say that's that's pretty

794
00:35:07,910 --> 00:35:05,160
average you know

795
00:35:09,890 --> 00:35:07,920
that's two humans you put it no I don't

796
00:35:11,870 --> 00:35:09,900
want to run your shoulders

797
00:35:13,730 --> 00:35:11,880
that is a yeah I don't want to run

798
00:35:15,829 --> 00:35:13,740
against anything that big I'll be honest

799
00:35:16,790 --> 00:35:15,839
with you yeah when I ran up against was

800
00:35:18,430 --> 00:35:16,800
big enough

801
00:35:21,530 --> 00:35:18,440
yeah

802
00:35:23,150 --> 00:35:21,540
I'll run from a woman with a pot belly

803
00:35:26,410 --> 00:35:23,160
so if you're like 12 feet tall I'm out

804
00:35:30,950 --> 00:35:28,790
but you know it would be fascinating

805
00:35:32,990 --> 00:35:30,960
what would you I mean I would love to

806
00:35:35,450 --> 00:35:33,000
see one that tall I I'm fairly certain I

807
00:35:37,970 --> 00:35:35,460
would do anything much over ten uh but

808
00:35:41,089 --> 00:35:37,980
even 10 is pretty good size when they're

809
00:35:44,030 --> 00:35:41,099
also triple quadruple your weight or

810
00:35:45,890 --> 00:35:44,040
worse you just go okay

811
00:35:49,010 --> 00:35:45,900
you are my new friend

812
00:35:50,930 --> 00:35:49,020
you know you know we a lot of these uh

813
00:35:52,670 --> 00:35:50,940
upright canine settings that we get here

814
00:35:55,130 --> 00:35:52,680
in Pennsylvania

815
00:35:57,530 --> 00:35:55,140
uh I'm talking about the the big

816
00:35:59,210 --> 00:35:57,540
muscular you know the ones that are

817
00:36:01,370 --> 00:35:59,220
really shaped

818
00:36:03,230 --> 00:36:01,380
I mean 10 foot is like nothing with

819
00:36:04,490 --> 00:36:03,240
those things what the what we're getting

820
00:36:05,510 --> 00:36:04,500
from people

821
00:36:07,430 --> 00:36:05,520
now I don't know if they're

822
00:36:10,970 --> 00:36:07,440
misidentifying them I I wouldn't think

823
00:36:13,069 --> 00:36:10,980
so just by the way they they talk to us

824
00:36:15,650 --> 00:36:13,079
but uh

825
00:36:19,250 --> 00:36:15,660
some of those sightings are huge I mean

826
00:36:22,550 --> 00:36:19,260
and now here we get into the the whole

827
00:36:25,970 --> 00:36:22,560
is it an actual being or is it something

828
00:36:30,430 --> 00:36:25,980
that's Supernatural or whatever but

829
00:36:33,290 --> 00:36:30,440
you know I I we we have regularly gotten

830
00:36:36,109 --> 00:36:33,300
sightings that size

831
00:36:38,630 --> 00:36:36,119
yeah here in Missouri it's usually in

832
00:36:42,290 --> 00:36:38,640
the eight to ten with an occasional trip

833
00:36:45,050 --> 00:36:42,300
up to the you know 11 or 12. but it's

834
00:36:47,510 --> 00:36:45,060
virtually always an approximation well

835
00:36:49,670 --> 00:36:47,520
it was uh one hand over that knot in

836
00:36:51,410 --> 00:36:49,680
that oak tree and that that knot is like

837
00:36:55,069 --> 00:36:51,420
a nine feet so it must have been at

838
00:36:58,010 --> 00:36:55,079
least 10. you know that's what you get

839
00:37:01,069 --> 00:36:58,020
but you know hey if you're off by a foot

840
00:37:02,329 --> 00:37:01,079
who cares that's a big boy that's true I

841
00:37:04,130 --> 00:37:02,339
mean really I mean if you if you're

842
00:37:06,290 --> 00:37:04,140
thinking about if you're describing a

843
00:37:08,450 --> 00:37:06,300
Sasquatch if you're off by a foot and

844
00:37:10,490 --> 00:37:08,460
you're saying well between 10 and 12 I

845
00:37:12,890 --> 00:37:10,500
mean it was huge it was at least as high

846
00:37:14,750 --> 00:37:12,900
as my my aunt's birdhouse back there you

847
00:37:17,089 --> 00:37:14,760
know and so

848
00:37:19,010 --> 00:37:17,099
what's a foot you know they could tell

849
00:37:21,710 --> 00:37:19,020
you a limb from limb if they want which

850
00:37:24,410 --> 00:37:21,720
they don't but you know they can so it's

851
00:37:25,910 --> 00:37:24,420
just by sheer volume and size that they

852
00:37:28,130 --> 00:37:25,920
can intimidate you you know that's all

853
00:37:31,069 --> 00:37:28,140
you need when you're that big you know

854
00:37:32,750 --> 00:37:31,079
and I almost want to answer that

855
00:37:34,910 --> 00:37:32,760
question with a question

856
00:37:37,250 --> 00:37:34,920
are they

857
00:37:39,349 --> 00:37:37,260
you know almost like bear different

858
00:37:41,990 --> 00:37:39,359
species get different sizes

859
00:37:44,510 --> 00:37:42,000
you know a grizzly bear gets

860
00:37:47,589 --> 00:37:44,520
you know twice the size of a black bear

861
00:37:53,810 --> 00:37:51,530
the skunk apes they're in the four and a

862
00:37:56,390 --> 00:37:53,820
half five foot range Maybe

863
00:37:58,250 --> 00:37:56,400
you get a little further you know West

864
00:37:59,930 --> 00:37:58,260
and North they get a little bigger you

865
00:38:01,670 --> 00:37:59,940
get up to you know Washington State and

866
00:38:05,270 --> 00:38:01,680
Oregon they're even bigger in California

867
00:38:07,010 --> 00:38:05,280
in the upper North so I I think it is

868
00:38:08,630 --> 00:38:07,020
regional dispersal you know and just

869
00:38:10,970 --> 00:38:08,640
different sizes for different species

870
00:38:12,710 --> 00:38:10,980
you know well I just like now Vincent

871
00:38:14,630 --> 00:38:12,720
put up here do you think the Sasquatch

872
00:38:20,569 --> 00:38:14,640
Behavior changes with region and climate

873
00:38:25,430 --> 00:38:23,390
yeah well

874
00:38:27,470 --> 00:38:25,440
if you're asking that to anybody I say

875
00:38:29,270 --> 00:38:27,480
did you say charge Behavior changes with

876
00:38:31,730 --> 00:38:29,280
region and climate well we were just

877
00:38:34,670 --> 00:38:31,740
talking about that you know uh the skunk

878
00:38:37,250 --> 00:38:34,680
apes are smaller but they appear to be

879
00:38:39,230 --> 00:38:37,260
considerably more aggressive and hostile

880
00:38:41,510 --> 00:38:39,240
yeah they seem to be aggressive they'd

881
00:38:43,609 --> 00:38:41,520
be the small man syndrome you know like

882
00:38:45,650 --> 00:38:43,619
you know you went to school the poor guy

883
00:38:47,450 --> 00:38:45,660
at school he was a foot shorter than

884
00:38:50,630 --> 00:38:47,460
everybody else he was he was always

885
00:38:53,870 --> 00:38:50,640
wanting to be a badass you know uh so it

886
00:38:55,550 --> 00:38:53,880
may be uh that it might change when

887
00:38:57,950 --> 00:38:55,560
you're like the biggest guy on the Block

888
00:38:59,210 --> 00:38:57,960
you don't have to mess with too much no

889
00:39:01,069 --> 00:38:59,220
one's going to mess with you you don't

890
00:39:03,770 --> 00:39:01,079
have to do much so you could be a little

891
00:39:05,930 --> 00:39:03,780
bit more laid back because you're the

892
00:39:07,370 --> 00:39:05,940
king of the Beast if you're a small guy

893
00:39:09,109 --> 00:39:07,380
well you're going to be like a little

894
00:39:13,069 --> 00:39:09,119
Chihuahua nipping in everybody's heels

895
00:39:15,050 --> 00:39:13,079
you know well I'll show you you know

896
00:39:17,690 --> 00:39:15,060
that would make sense I mean that's how

897
00:39:20,150 --> 00:39:17,700
humans are you know if you you're short

898
00:39:21,650 --> 00:39:20,160
some people get a chip you know you got

899
00:39:24,050 --> 00:39:21,660
you know a short guy with a big truck

900
00:39:25,849 --> 00:39:24,060
all those kind of you know

901
00:39:27,650 --> 00:39:25,859
comparisons but it's kind of the same

902
00:39:30,650 --> 00:39:27,660
thing I think in the in the animal world

903
00:39:31,910 --> 00:39:30,660
if you're small and diminutive you

904
00:39:33,290 --> 00:39:31,920
better have something else going for you

905
00:39:35,450 --> 00:39:33,300
or you're just gonna have to go to the

906
00:39:38,510 --> 00:39:35,460
you know back of the line and you know

907
00:39:41,030 --> 00:39:38,520
eat eat leftovers like everybody else I

908
00:39:42,890 --> 00:39:41,040
imagine if I was a hairy beast it had to

909
00:39:48,290 --> 00:39:42,900
live in the swamps to Florida in that

910
00:39:52,910 --> 00:39:50,810
and ducking pythons and everything else

911
00:39:55,069 --> 00:39:52,920
in it

912
00:39:56,569 --> 00:39:55,079
that's where the term swamp cooler came

913
00:39:57,650 --> 00:39:56,579
from because you know they didn't have

914
00:40:01,069 --> 00:39:57,660
them down there

915
00:40:04,190 --> 00:40:01,079
you know so but yeah I I I think you

916
00:40:07,849 --> 00:40:04,200
know the size of dispersal may be due to

917
00:40:09,530 --> 00:40:07,859
climate terrain who the if they get

918
00:40:10,670 --> 00:40:09,540
bigger up into into Canada and

919
00:40:11,810 --> 00:40:10,680
Washington State you got all the

920
00:40:15,109 --> 00:40:11,820
mountains you got to do all the hiking

921
00:40:17,690 --> 00:40:15,119
and climbing uh you know smaller oxygen

922
00:40:19,430 --> 00:40:17,700
uh the higher up you go so you might

923
00:40:22,609 --> 00:40:19,440
have to be bigger and better than

924
00:40:24,950 --> 00:40:22,619
everybody else in those areas where you

925
00:40:26,630 --> 00:40:24,960
know like here in Missouri uh we have

926
00:40:28,849 --> 00:40:26,640
some big boys eight to ten is usually

927
00:40:31,609 --> 00:40:28,859
the the range you know six and a half to

928
00:40:34,370 --> 00:40:31,619
eight is normal eight to ten is the

929
00:40:37,750 --> 00:40:34,380
upper limits with an occasional foray

930
00:40:42,589 --> 00:40:37,760
into 11 or 12 but that's rare here

931
00:40:45,290 --> 00:40:42,599
you know well now you guys all three of

932
00:40:47,710 --> 00:40:45,300
you guys have well haven't been on the

933
00:40:51,290 --> 00:40:47,720
team but but a couple years

934
00:40:53,510 --> 00:40:51,300
and uh of course you hear me in my foray

935
00:40:55,069 --> 00:40:53,520
talking about the wing humanoid

936
00:40:57,410 --> 00:40:55,079
phenomena and you know I've never really

937
00:41:01,849 --> 00:40:57,420
asked you guys about that

938
00:41:03,349 --> 00:41:01,859
so you know why don't you give me uh you

939
00:41:05,569 --> 00:41:03,359
know I'm quite sure you've read the

940
00:41:07,790 --> 00:41:05,579
reports what have we posting and all

941
00:41:12,069 --> 00:41:07,800
what are your thoughts on all that I'm

942
00:41:15,910 --> 00:41:14,450
like one of my thoughts on the Chicago

943
00:41:18,890 --> 00:41:15,920
stuff or just

944
00:41:22,010 --> 00:41:18,900
the whole winged humanoid though yeah

945
00:41:26,089 --> 00:41:22,020
the Mothman Wing humanoid phenomena

946
00:41:28,730 --> 00:41:26,099
I personally don't have too much

947
00:41:30,950 --> 00:41:28,740
experience with that okay

948
00:41:32,710 --> 00:41:30,960
um and I will say you know we do have

949
00:41:36,410 --> 00:41:32,720
our local one here

950
00:41:38,210 --> 00:41:36,420
which are very uh

951
00:41:41,030 --> 00:41:38,220
very familiar with

952
00:41:43,870 --> 00:41:41,040
I think you even had a maybe a possibly

953
00:41:46,790 --> 00:41:43,880
an encounter with it yourself yeah

954
00:41:49,270 --> 00:41:46,800
yep yep and

955
00:41:55,310 --> 00:41:53,510
that's probably the the best known one

956
00:41:57,530 --> 00:41:55,320
but there have been others too and of

957
00:41:59,690 --> 00:41:57,540
course yeah yeah and like I said I don't

958
00:42:01,849 --> 00:41:59,700
know I don't really it's hard for me to

959
00:42:04,010 --> 00:42:01,859
even say on that yeah

960
00:42:06,050 --> 00:42:04,020
you know because I haven't had too much

961
00:42:08,990 --> 00:42:06,060
experience with it

962
00:42:10,190 --> 00:42:09,000
so Chad where are you at exactly

963
00:42:12,290 --> 00:42:10,200
recently

964
00:42:13,550 --> 00:42:12,300
I am in York County Pennsylvania so I'm

965
00:42:17,210 --> 00:42:13,560
in South Central

966
00:42:19,790 --> 00:42:17,220
South Central PA I'm between Gettysburg

967
00:42:21,290 --> 00:42:19,800
and York gotcha if you're if you're

968
00:42:23,569 --> 00:42:21,300
familiar with that area yeah he's pretty

969
00:42:27,530 --> 00:42:23,579
close to me you're in Spring Grove right

970
00:42:30,370 --> 00:42:27,540
yeah yeah I'm literally probably like

971
00:42:32,990 --> 00:42:30,380
20 minutes from long yeah

972
00:42:35,690 --> 00:42:33,000
in Adams County but I'm right on the

973
00:42:39,230 --> 00:42:35,700
line so yeah I'm very close to the line

974
00:42:41,870 --> 00:42:39,240
with Adams County so I'm I'm I roam

975
00:42:43,310 --> 00:42:41,880
around most of PA though I do a lot of

976
00:42:45,050 --> 00:42:43,320
hiking and camping all throughout

977
00:42:49,190 --> 00:42:45,060
Pennsylvania

978
00:42:50,810 --> 00:42:49,200
so but um it seems to be at least in

979
00:42:53,750 --> 00:42:50,820
this area here and I'm just going by

980
00:42:56,150 --> 00:42:53,760
with what I know with folklore and the

981
00:42:58,430 --> 00:42:56,160
the accounts that we have collected or

982
00:43:01,970 --> 00:42:58,440
Tim has collected and I the one or two

983
00:43:04,010 --> 00:43:01,980
I've gotten from strange familiars they

984
00:43:07,670 --> 00:43:04,020
seem to follow the creeks

985
00:43:10,910 --> 00:43:07,680
at least here yeah they do uh especially

986
00:43:13,190 --> 00:43:10,920
specifically the kanawaga now whether

987
00:43:14,809 --> 00:43:13,200
you have one that also comes from the

988
00:43:16,670 --> 00:43:14,819
Codorus furnace

989
00:43:18,109 --> 00:43:16,680
but in near the river there at the

990
00:43:20,690 --> 00:43:18,119
Susquehanna

991
00:43:23,030 --> 00:43:20,700
where the Codorus and the kanawaga dump

992
00:43:24,650 --> 00:43:23,040
out are somewhat close so whether

993
00:43:26,150 --> 00:43:24,660
there's something traveling between

994
00:43:30,410 --> 00:43:26,160
those two creeks

995
00:43:32,809 --> 00:43:30,420
I don't know but it's seems to be I I

996
00:43:33,589 --> 00:43:32,819
got one contact from somebody that was

997
00:43:35,150 --> 00:43:33,599
near

998
00:43:37,069 --> 00:43:35,160
um New Oxford

999
00:43:39,470 --> 00:43:37,079
which is where the little the little

1000
00:43:43,670 --> 00:43:39,480
kanawaga comes in which is I guess they

1001
00:43:46,130 --> 00:43:43,680
were somewhat down uh Downstream from

1002
00:43:48,530 --> 00:43:46,140
Camp kanawaga right and this was

1003
00:43:50,390 --> 00:43:48,540
somewhat recently so I have to follow up

1004
00:43:53,809 --> 00:43:50,400
yeah I'm going to be following up with

1005
00:43:55,069 --> 00:43:53,819
them I want to hear that one I got their

1006
00:43:56,750 --> 00:43:55,079
information

1007
00:43:59,450 --> 00:43:56,760
so it's only a matter of time before

1008
00:44:02,290 --> 00:43:59,460
once we because we have a long list of

1009
00:44:05,690 --> 00:44:02,300
what we're working through

1010
00:44:08,150 --> 00:44:05,700
I know Tim has talked to me about and

1011
00:44:09,829 --> 00:44:08,160
it's hard to get into camp konawaga now

1012
00:44:13,130 --> 00:44:09,839
you got to know somebody to get in there

1013
00:44:15,589 --> 00:44:13,140
I've tried I've tried

1014
00:44:18,770 --> 00:44:15,599
um they don't want you in there I know

1015
00:44:22,010 --> 00:44:18,780
I'm gonna have I'm gonna see if I can

1016
00:44:24,530 --> 00:44:22,020
kind of pull some strings because uh I

1017
00:44:26,990 --> 00:44:24,540
have wanted to go back up there now of

1018
00:44:29,210 --> 00:44:27,000
course there's a um there's a state game

1019
00:44:31,849 --> 00:44:29,220
land not far from there either yeah

1020
00:44:35,270 --> 00:44:31,859
we've we've actually roamed that at

1021
00:44:37,430 --> 00:44:35,280
night uh along along the kanawaga and we

1022
00:44:39,950 --> 00:44:37,440
had some weird stuff going on

1023
00:44:41,329 --> 00:44:39,960
so whether it was that or something else

1024
00:44:44,809 --> 00:44:41,339
who knows

1025
00:44:46,069 --> 00:44:44,819
but uh if you do the history because I

1026
00:44:47,630 --> 00:44:46,079
like to go back to look at the history

1027
00:44:50,030 --> 00:44:47,640
and all that stuff

1028
00:44:52,550 --> 00:44:50,040
Camp kanawaga has always been kind of

1029
00:44:54,410 --> 00:44:52,560
like a Gathering Spot I think they used

1030
00:44:56,270 --> 00:44:54,420
to gather there when when this area was

1031
00:44:57,109 --> 00:44:56,280
Frontier they actually used to gather

1032
00:44:59,510 --> 00:44:57,119
their

1033
00:45:02,030 --> 00:44:59,520
gather there to sell furs and all that

1034
00:45:03,970 --> 00:45:02,040
stuff the um

1035
00:45:06,530 --> 00:45:03,980
the Susquehanna

1036
00:45:08,030 --> 00:45:06,540
Indians used to that used to be a

1037
00:45:09,710 --> 00:45:08,040
meeting place for them and then when

1038
00:45:12,829 --> 00:45:09,720
they got moved out

1039
00:45:14,510 --> 00:45:12,839
some of the fur Trappers set up uh well

1040
00:45:17,870 --> 00:45:14,520
there was a trading post set up there

1041
00:45:20,290 --> 00:45:17,880
yep and then that was kind of the uh the

1042
00:45:22,309 --> 00:45:20,300
Gateway into the you know into the West

1043
00:45:24,950 --> 00:45:22,319
uh you know going into Western

1044
00:45:27,589 --> 00:45:24,960
Pennsylvania and uh there were a lot

1045
00:45:30,710 --> 00:45:27,599
there were a lot of trading posts up and

1046
00:45:33,470 --> 00:45:30,720
down there so I you know I uh but you're

1047
00:45:36,050 --> 00:45:33,480
right I mean it's a well-known area I

1048
00:45:38,750 --> 00:45:36,060
mean the Susquehanna used to hang out in

1049
00:45:41,450 --> 00:45:38,760
there I knew the Shawnee did as well

1050
00:45:43,910 --> 00:45:41,460
uh it's a little further south for the

1051
00:45:45,109 --> 00:45:43,920
the Delaware and the londonape but you

1052
00:45:46,309 --> 00:45:45,119
know there's been a lot of there's been

1053
00:45:48,410 --> 00:45:46,319
a lot

1054
00:45:53,390 --> 00:45:48,420
of uh

1055
00:45:55,970 --> 00:45:53,400
area or in this area

1056
00:45:58,309 --> 00:45:55,980
so a lot of Crossroads a lot of

1057
00:45:59,870 --> 00:45:58,319
Crossroads so yeah and you know and then

1058
00:46:02,390 --> 00:45:59,880
you think about it if it's a crossroad

1059
00:46:04,550 --> 00:46:02,400
it's a liminal space and a lot of these

1060
00:46:07,849 --> 00:46:04,560
things happen in liminal spaces

1061
00:46:10,609 --> 00:46:07,859
so and and I think I even had I think we

1062
00:46:12,950 --> 00:46:10,619
just talked to a guy recently and we're

1063
00:46:15,710 --> 00:46:12,960
going to be talking to him he has seen

1064
00:46:17,750 --> 00:46:15,720
it now this is down more towards where

1065
00:46:20,150 --> 00:46:17,760
where the kind of logger dumps into the

1066
00:46:22,010 --> 00:46:20,160
Susquehanna he's down near that area and

1067
00:46:23,210 --> 00:46:22,020
he has seen

1068
00:46:25,309 --> 00:46:23,220
something

1069
00:46:28,370 --> 00:46:25,319
along the lines of the conologic Phantom

1070
00:46:29,990 --> 00:46:28,380
so well that's one um there's one right

1071
00:46:31,609 --> 00:46:30,000
there was one scene right off iron

1072
00:46:35,710 --> 00:46:31,619
Furnace Road too

1073
00:46:38,030 --> 00:46:35,720
okay uh not far from uh from the the

1074
00:46:40,069 --> 00:46:38,040
Codorus furnace the dark the doors

1075
00:46:41,930 --> 00:46:40,079
furnace yep yeah that was probably the

1076
00:46:43,490 --> 00:46:41,940
one I was talking about that that seemed

1077
00:46:46,670 --> 00:46:43,500
to travel between the two furnaces

1078
00:46:48,230 --> 00:46:46,680
between the two Creeks yeah a woman a

1079
00:46:52,510 --> 00:46:48,240
mother and a daughter actually this

1080
00:46:58,730 --> 00:46:55,130
yeah but that I would have liked to seen

1081
00:47:01,370 --> 00:46:58,740
that conversation yeah

1082
00:47:03,650 --> 00:47:01,380
I mean I've seen enough of the other red

1083
00:47:05,210 --> 00:47:03,660
eye the glowing red eyes and when I say

1084
00:47:06,589 --> 00:47:05,220
glowing red eyes I don't mean the the

1085
00:47:08,210 --> 00:47:06,599
Eye shine I'm talking about literally

1086
00:47:10,849 --> 00:47:08,220
the glowing red eyes

1087
00:47:13,190 --> 00:47:10,859
um I don't know what I would do if I saw

1088
00:47:15,950 --> 00:47:13,200
like something like drop on the hood of

1089
00:47:17,930 --> 00:47:15,960
my car or something like that so it

1090
00:47:19,730 --> 00:47:17,940
would be quite interesting so but yeah

1091
00:47:21,950 --> 00:47:19,740
that's my experience you know what it is

1092
00:47:25,309 --> 00:47:21,960
I don't know and I don't think we'll

1093
00:47:27,530 --> 00:47:25,319
ever really really know wow so you know

1094
00:47:29,270 --> 00:47:27,540
and this is what I've been saying for a

1095
00:47:33,890 --> 00:47:29,280
long time you know I had my encounter in

1096
00:47:36,609 --> 00:47:33,900
1988 up at kennel up Conewago but the

1097
00:47:40,130 --> 00:47:36,619
the funny thing is

1098
00:47:42,470 --> 00:47:40,140
why am I getting the one involved

1099
00:47:44,270 --> 00:47:42,480
primarily in what course with Manuel and

1100
00:47:47,870 --> 00:47:44,280
and Tobias with this stuff in Chicago

1101
00:47:51,530 --> 00:47:47,880
because what they're seeing is very

1102
00:47:54,890 --> 00:47:53,150
you know I've been I was talking about

1103
00:47:57,109 --> 00:47:54,900
this thing

1104
00:47:59,150 --> 00:47:57,119
25 years before the things in Chicago

1105
00:48:01,430 --> 00:47:59,160
started

1106
00:48:03,069 --> 00:48:01,440
so I don't know I I don't I don't care

1107
00:48:05,030 --> 00:48:03,079
here's a question

1108
00:48:09,349 --> 00:48:05,040
I've been wanting to ask you this

1109
00:48:12,290 --> 00:48:09,359
forever but you know Illinois you're the

1110
00:48:15,410 --> 00:48:12,300
king of the Mothman

1111
00:48:20,170 --> 00:48:17,450
somewhat

1112
00:48:22,490 --> 00:48:20,180
Sasquatch but you you got the Mothman

1113
00:48:24,710 --> 00:48:22,500
and Dogman

1114
00:48:26,270 --> 00:48:24,720
especially up in the Northeast like

1115
00:48:27,589 --> 00:48:26,280
Pennsylvania so I'm just trying to

1116
00:48:30,170 --> 00:48:27,599
figure

1117
00:48:33,290 --> 00:48:30,180
are they dispersed because of the cave

1118
00:48:36,370 --> 00:48:33,300
system is no one reporting them do they

1119
00:48:39,170 --> 00:48:36,380
like the area because you know Missouri

1120
00:48:42,530 --> 00:48:39,180
I've taken out of

1121
00:48:45,170 --> 00:48:42,540
probably 450 to 500 Witnesses now I've

1122
00:48:49,849 --> 00:48:45,180
taken three dog man reports one I put in

1123
00:48:54,010 --> 00:48:49,859
the book uh with a photo two I just put

1124
00:48:57,050 --> 00:48:54,020
them as also noted dog man's just not

1125
00:48:59,150 --> 00:48:57,060
reported down here but for every

1126
00:49:02,089 --> 00:48:59,160
Sasquatch reporter I get you get three

1127
00:49:04,609 --> 00:49:02,099
mothmans so they love your Corridor up

1128
00:49:07,790 --> 00:49:04,619
there for whatever reason I don't know

1129
00:49:11,030 --> 00:49:07,800
what it is about the Chicago area cave

1130
00:49:13,849 --> 00:49:11,040
systems I don't know it's the water a

1131
00:49:15,829 --> 00:49:13,859
forest or whatever it is

1132
00:49:18,050 --> 00:49:15,839
that's something we just haven't been

1133
00:49:19,430 --> 00:49:18,060
able to figure out you know the fact

1134
00:49:22,430 --> 00:49:19,440
that we're getting all these settings

1135
00:49:25,609 --> 00:49:22,440
around that airport for more recently

1136
00:49:28,670 --> 00:49:25,619
that's crazy yeah it's crazy it is crazy

1137
00:49:31,510 --> 00:49:28,680
I mean 160 sightings

1138
00:49:35,569 --> 00:49:31,520
so far that we considered to even be

1139
00:49:36,589 --> 00:49:35,579
valid sightings and you know and you

1140
00:49:40,670 --> 00:49:36,599
know there's a lot more that aren't

1141
00:49:43,430 --> 00:49:40,680
getting reported and uh

1142
00:49:46,430 --> 00:49:43,440
yeah it's it's a hot spot now why that

1143
00:49:48,710 --> 00:49:46,440
is you know that area Illinois and

1144
00:49:52,730 --> 00:49:48,720
Indiana have always been known for

1145
00:49:54,530 --> 00:49:52,740
uh Thunderbird sightings and pterosaur

1146
00:49:58,190 --> 00:49:54,540
sightings and other Wing being sightings

1147
00:50:01,270 --> 00:49:58,200
I mean for deck for centuries I mean

1148
00:50:04,970 --> 00:50:01,280
even the indigenous people used to drop

1149
00:50:06,349 --> 00:50:04,980
petroglyphs and such of these things

1150
00:50:09,470 --> 00:50:06,359
um

1151
00:50:11,690 --> 00:50:09,480
but why these things are showing up now

1152
00:50:15,130 --> 00:50:11,700
I I don't know but they're so

1153
00:50:18,589 --> 00:50:15,140
concentrated like Chicago was like

1154
00:50:21,109 --> 00:50:18,599
the the

1155
00:50:24,230 --> 00:50:21,119
poster boy for Chicago would be the

1156
00:50:28,430 --> 00:50:24,240
Mothman you know Missouri is Sasquatch

1157
00:50:31,010 --> 00:50:28,440
you know I I just it's that they don't

1158
00:50:33,230 --> 00:50:31,020
trickle down what is it is it the cave

1159
00:50:34,430 --> 00:50:33,240
system that they're using to hide in it

1160
00:50:37,550 --> 00:50:34,440
I don't know

1161
00:50:42,349 --> 00:50:37,560
because it is odd that the Mothman

1162
00:50:44,569 --> 00:50:42,359
Dogman pale whites uh Slenderman they're

1163
00:50:46,490 --> 00:50:44,579
they're not around here Sasquatch they

1164
00:50:49,730 --> 00:50:46,500
are but you you just get

1165
00:50:51,589 --> 00:50:49,740
tiny little Snippets of reports of that

1166
00:50:55,130 --> 00:50:51,599
but up there you know you're probably

1167
00:50:58,130 --> 00:50:55,140
three or four to one on Sasha Sasquatch

1168
00:51:00,650 --> 00:50:58,140
reports versus Missouri you know we have

1169
00:51:04,370 --> 00:51:00,660
you outnumbered but you you the Mothman

1170
00:51:08,329 --> 00:51:04,380
it's just odd that they seem to have lit

1171
00:51:11,210 --> 00:51:08,339
into a certain region and like it there

1172
00:51:12,890 --> 00:51:11,220
uh you know this has been this has been

1173
00:51:15,109 --> 00:51:12,900
the big mystery from the very beginning

1174
00:51:18,829 --> 00:51:15,119
I mean you know this is something that

1175
00:51:21,650 --> 00:51:18,839
we've been trying to figure out yeah is

1176
00:51:24,250 --> 00:51:21,660
the do you not have a state income tax

1177
00:51:26,510 --> 00:51:24,260
in Illinois so that's why there's more

1178
00:51:29,030 --> 00:51:26,520
I'm just trying to figure out you know

1179
00:51:32,750 --> 00:51:29,040
what's the attraction you know is it a

1180
00:51:35,030 --> 00:51:32,760
cave system is it the climate or you

1181
00:51:37,609 --> 00:51:35,040
know the food sources Illinois I don't

1182
00:51:39,410 --> 00:51:37,619
know about cave systems in Illinois I

1183
00:51:41,630 --> 00:51:39,420
don't think it's it's as much as it

1184
00:51:42,950 --> 00:51:41,640
hears here in Pennsylvania I mean that

1185
00:51:45,470 --> 00:51:42,960
could be a factor here in Pennsylvania

1186
00:51:51,910 --> 00:51:45,480
we've got a lot of caves

1187
00:51:57,109 --> 00:51:54,890
I mean you know you go down into the the

1188
00:51:59,690 --> 00:51:57,119
Ozarks but I you know

1189
00:52:02,690 --> 00:51:59,700
and that's another story of Ozarks oh my

1190
00:52:05,510 --> 00:52:02,700
God it's crazy down there oh man and the

1191
00:52:08,990 --> 00:52:05,520
Sheep are nervous absolutely you know I

1192
00:52:11,390 --> 00:52:09,000
I I was actually thinking about that

1193
00:52:13,549 --> 00:52:11,400
today and I have a theory

1194
00:52:16,910 --> 00:52:13,559
you can talk about the portals and stuff

1195
00:52:19,150 --> 00:52:16,920
yeah what if they're not using portals

1196
00:52:22,010 --> 00:52:19,160
to come visit us but more of a shortcut

1197
00:52:24,109 --> 00:52:22,020
from this Dimension to the next yeah

1198
00:52:26,510 --> 00:52:24,119
that could be yeah

1199
00:52:29,329 --> 00:52:26,520
yeah they're here briefly enough to be

1200
00:52:31,370 --> 00:52:29,339
seen and then you know anything's on the

1201
00:52:35,569 --> 00:52:31,380
table you know and that's why there's

1202
00:52:38,930 --> 00:52:35,579
the argument with the of the the in my

1203
00:52:43,130 --> 00:52:38,940
specific area of Interest which is

1204
00:52:47,510 --> 00:52:43,140
Sasquatch was with the apers and the

1205
00:52:49,849 --> 00:52:47,520
paranormal or Quantum faction yeah you

1206
00:52:53,210 --> 00:52:49,859
know so that that's the the never-ending

1207
00:52:55,849 --> 00:52:53,220
argument is you know they can't do this

1208
00:52:57,230 --> 00:52:55,859
they can't be this and so we're we're in

1209
00:53:00,230 --> 00:52:57,240
loggerheads that's why there's all this

1210
00:53:03,710 --> 00:53:00,240
we know this is something we ran across

1211
00:53:05,690 --> 00:53:03,720
this week I mean you know and it's big

1212
00:53:07,490 --> 00:53:05,700
in the Sasquatch Community but it's big

1213
00:53:10,549 --> 00:53:07,500
everywhere why

1214
00:53:12,290 --> 00:53:10,559
why all the infighting and bickering and

1215
00:53:13,849 --> 00:53:12,300
moaning and groaning and nobody wants to

1216
00:53:16,849 --> 00:53:13,859
even want to work together

1217
00:53:19,609 --> 00:53:16,859
everybody wants to be number one well I

1218
00:53:22,069 --> 00:53:19,619
guess that's what it is I mean what else

1219
00:53:24,049 --> 00:53:22,079
is it your egos are like a million

1220
00:53:27,410 --> 00:53:24,059
dollar prize if you're the one or

1221
00:53:33,950 --> 00:53:31,250
it does not well it does make sense but

1222
00:53:36,109 --> 00:53:33,960
in that we're all in this together

1223
00:53:38,930 --> 00:53:36,119
there should be some

1224
00:53:41,809 --> 00:53:38,940
even loosen it camaraderie and there

1225
00:53:43,970 --> 00:53:41,819
isn't you know you know we we discussed

1226
00:53:48,470 --> 00:53:43,980
this earlier this week when yeah they

1227
00:53:50,270 --> 00:53:48,480
went Bonkers over my book cover yeah it

1228
00:53:52,069 --> 00:53:50,280
wouldn't let it be and would just

1229
00:53:54,230 --> 00:53:52,079
trashing me

1230
00:53:56,930 --> 00:53:54,240
he's a fellow researcher

1231
00:53:59,750 --> 00:53:56,940
it's like what

1232
00:54:01,490 --> 00:53:59,760
you don't have to trash me to disagree

1233
00:54:04,130 --> 00:54:01,500
and let's have a debate and conversation

1234
00:54:07,190 --> 00:54:04,140
so we all have our opinions as to

1235
00:54:09,950 --> 00:54:07,200
Paranormal Quantum Flesh and Blood only

1236
00:54:12,170 --> 00:54:09,960
blah blah blah uh you know

1237
00:54:15,230 --> 00:54:12,180
which is fine that's how we get

1238
00:54:16,549 --> 00:54:15,240
somewhere you know well that's why we

1239
00:54:19,010 --> 00:54:16,559
have the group

1240
00:54:20,390 --> 00:54:19,020
I mean you know but when it comes out of

1241
00:54:23,270 --> 00:54:20,400
the group

1242
00:54:25,130 --> 00:54:23,280
yeah and that's a problem and you know

1243
00:54:27,049 --> 00:54:25,140
I'm not putting up with that and you run

1244
00:54:28,670 --> 00:54:27,059
a nice tight ship you're right you have

1245
00:54:30,109 --> 00:54:28,680
one of the better

1246
00:54:33,049 --> 00:54:30,119
paranormal

1247
00:54:35,450 --> 00:54:33,059
operations that I've been a part of you

1248
00:54:39,890 --> 00:54:35,460
just don't appreciate that allow it you

1249
00:54:42,290 --> 00:54:39,900
know you don't allow it by mean you

1250
00:54:44,690 --> 00:54:42,300
don't allow it you actually take action

1251
00:54:47,030 --> 00:54:44,700
you don't just like go now you stop that

1252
00:54:49,569 --> 00:54:47,040
Bobby you be nice and harder you know

1253
00:54:52,549 --> 00:54:49,579
yeah I found that it doesn't work

1254
00:54:53,750 --> 00:54:52,559
get the hell out of here the thing is

1255
00:54:58,730 --> 00:54:53,760
the thing is

1256
00:55:00,410 --> 00:54:58,740
and you said about our about everybody's

1257
00:55:02,930 --> 00:55:00,420
opinions Carter

1258
00:55:04,430 --> 00:55:02,940
when you do this research you really

1259
00:55:06,410 --> 00:55:04,440
shouldn't put your opinion on things

1260
00:55:09,349 --> 00:55:06,420
because if and I'm not saying you in

1261
00:55:10,849 --> 00:55:09,359
general I mean everybody in general you

1262
00:55:13,250 --> 00:55:10,859
shouldn't put your opinions when you're

1263
00:55:16,430 --> 00:55:13,260
doing research because if you're doing

1264
00:55:18,470 --> 00:55:16,440
right right science okay

1265
00:55:20,750 --> 00:55:18,480
you look at everything

1266
00:55:22,549 --> 00:55:20,760
all the evidence and then you draw your

1267
00:55:24,109 --> 00:55:22,559
conclusions by looking at all the

1268
00:55:25,790 --> 00:55:24,119
evidence whether it's

1269
00:55:27,410 --> 00:55:25,800
and I'm just going to use the the

1270
00:55:29,569 --> 00:55:27,420
Bigfoot thing because like you said you

1271
00:55:31,490 --> 00:55:29,579
have the apers and The Relic hominids

1272
00:55:33,230 --> 00:55:31,500
and all and all that and the high

1273
00:55:35,210 --> 00:55:33,240
strangeness people and the Paranormal

1274
00:55:37,609 --> 00:55:35,220
and the whole dimension and all that

1275
00:55:40,190 --> 00:55:37,619
but you should look at all the evidence

1276
00:55:41,690 --> 00:55:40,200
no matter how small and and inconclusive

1277
00:55:44,089 --> 00:55:41,700
it is and just

1278
00:55:46,130 --> 00:55:44,099
and take it all into account

1279
00:55:48,710 --> 00:55:46,140
because a lot of times when you have the

1280
00:55:50,390 --> 00:55:48,720
Bigfoot reports you have the crazy

1281
00:55:52,910 --> 00:55:50,400
things like lights in the woods somebody

1282
00:55:54,410 --> 00:55:52,920
might have seen a UFO or whatever but

1283
00:55:56,750 --> 00:55:54,420
you should take all that into account

1284
00:55:58,130 --> 00:55:56,760
and and like you said we should all be

1285
00:56:01,250 --> 00:55:58,140
kind of working together and looking at

1286
00:56:03,829 --> 00:56:01,260
it as a as a whole holistically

1287
00:56:05,870 --> 00:56:03,839
I mean I think we would get a little

1288
00:56:07,370 --> 00:56:05,880
further that way if you know what I mean

1289
00:56:10,190 --> 00:56:07,380
we want to put the team together in the

1290
00:56:12,410 --> 00:56:10,200
first place I mean and you know exactly

1291
00:56:13,430 --> 00:56:12,420
yeah I felt like people might argue but

1292
00:56:15,530 --> 00:56:13,440
if you're going to start you know

1293
00:56:17,510 --> 00:56:15,540
calling me names and yeah well that

1294
00:56:18,950 --> 00:56:17,520
that's ridiculous that's just ridiculous

1295
00:56:22,190 --> 00:56:18,960
that's what we're talking about when you

1296
00:56:25,069 --> 00:56:22,200
take it yeah level that is far above

1297
00:56:27,349 --> 00:56:25,079
professional it is so beyond like are

1298
00:56:30,130 --> 00:56:27,359
you 12 years old or what what is wrong

1299
00:56:33,349 --> 00:56:30,140
with you you know exactly

1300
00:56:35,569 --> 00:56:33,359
I I saw one you didn't I mean it's just

1301
00:56:38,569 --> 00:56:35,579
gotten so high schoolish it's just

1302
00:56:40,190 --> 00:56:38,579
ridiculous I I'm very careful about when

1303
00:56:42,170 --> 00:56:40,200
I put an opinion out there I've done

1304
00:56:44,329 --> 00:56:42,180
like you said I do my homework best of

1305
00:56:47,030 --> 00:56:44,339
my ability I do my homework I vet my

1306
00:56:48,829 --> 00:56:47,040
Witnesses best I can you know and at the

1307
00:56:50,990 --> 00:56:48,839
end of the day you have to like have

1308
00:56:54,109 --> 00:56:51,000
some faith in your fellow man not too

1309
00:56:57,950 --> 00:56:54,119
much but just enough you know but it's

1310
00:57:00,349 --> 00:56:57,960
it's just bizarre that we are turning on

1311
00:57:05,030 --> 00:57:00,359
ourselves and it's for no other reason

1312
00:57:07,130 --> 00:57:05,040
than ego in the possible big prize at

1313
00:57:09,410 --> 00:57:07,140
the end of the thing I get to pull the

1314
00:57:12,770 --> 00:57:09,420
uh you know million dollar pot out of

1315
00:57:15,950 --> 00:57:12,780
the tree because I found a body it's

1316
00:57:18,710 --> 00:57:15,960
it's gone beyond research and it's all

1317
00:57:22,910 --> 00:57:18,720
satisfying our egos and our positions in

1318
00:57:24,650 --> 00:57:22,920
in the Sasquatch Community right the way

1319
00:57:27,349 --> 00:57:24,660
I look at it it's just like

1320
00:57:29,030 --> 00:57:27,359
it's gotten ridiculous you you know and

1321
00:57:30,530 --> 00:57:29,040
I'm building a website I'm just going to

1322
00:57:32,450 --> 00:57:30,540
get off a social here pretty quick

1323
00:57:34,910 --> 00:57:32,460
because I'm gonna I'm gonna share my

1324
00:57:36,829 --> 00:57:34,920
stuff on my web page because you know

1325
00:57:38,770 --> 00:57:36,839
this social media thing it's great to

1326
00:57:41,329 --> 00:57:38,780
connect but boy

1327
00:57:43,370 --> 00:57:41,339
you get the little keyboard Warrior guys

1328
00:57:45,530 --> 00:57:43,380
on there oh you

1329
00:57:46,910 --> 00:57:45,540
you you're so full of crap oh

1330
00:57:49,010 --> 00:57:46,920
I know it's just it's just like it's

1331
00:57:50,089 --> 00:57:49,020
like I'm back in high school junior high

1332
00:57:52,790 --> 00:57:50,099
even

1333
00:57:55,010 --> 00:57:52,800
kids are more mature in high school you

1334
00:57:56,450 --> 00:57:55,020
know I'm like in junior high if we all

1335
00:57:58,309 --> 00:57:56,460
experience it you know I'm not I'm not

1336
00:58:01,730 --> 00:57:58,319
preaching I am preaching to the choir we

1337
00:58:03,829 --> 00:58:01,740
all didn't hear it you know uh but when

1338
00:58:05,809 --> 00:58:03,839
you know uh some of this stuff went down

1339
00:58:08,630 --> 00:58:05,819
with you know people that should know

1340
00:58:11,150 --> 00:58:08,640
considerably better they're hurting all

1341
00:58:12,910 --> 00:58:11,160
of us for their own ego and

1342
00:58:15,170 --> 00:58:12,920
gratification that's all they care about

1343
00:58:19,190 --> 00:58:15,180
a lot of people that shouldn't be in

1344
00:58:21,170 --> 00:58:19,200
this are in it yeah and uh but you know

1345
00:58:23,510 --> 00:58:21,180
you see it you see it all throughout the

1346
00:58:26,530 --> 00:58:23,520
community you really do and some of

1347
00:58:30,470 --> 00:58:26,540
these arguments just really get bad yeah

1348
00:58:32,870 --> 00:58:30,480
uh and unfortunately

1349
00:58:35,569 --> 00:58:32,880
there are too many people that just like

1350
00:58:37,190 --> 00:58:35,579
to see it festering and get worse yeah

1351
00:58:38,569 --> 00:58:37,200
yeah

1352
00:58:40,370 --> 00:58:38,579
um but

1353
00:58:42,710 --> 00:58:40,380
but I will say that's not going to

1354
00:58:43,910 --> 00:58:42,720
happen on my bunch I mean that is just

1355
00:58:46,130 --> 00:58:43,920
not going to happen I'm not going to put

1356
00:58:48,049 --> 00:58:46,140
up with that yeah

1357
00:58:51,170 --> 00:58:48,059
you know I may get criticized for it

1358
00:58:53,150 --> 00:58:51,180
sometimes but I I'm you know I I just

1359
00:58:54,890 --> 00:58:53,160
just am not going to put up with that we

1360
00:58:56,630 --> 00:58:54,900
got too much other stuff going I've got

1361
00:59:00,349 --> 00:58:56,640
too much other stuff going on they'd be

1362
00:59:03,130 --> 00:59:00,359
worried about that yeah and uh you know

1363
00:59:06,530 --> 00:59:03,140
it we always want to

1364
00:59:07,789 --> 00:59:06,540
Kumbaya and be all all for one-on-one

1365
00:59:10,130 --> 00:59:07,799
for all

1366
00:59:11,170 --> 00:59:10,140
it doesn't happen it may not happen

1367
00:59:14,390 --> 00:59:11,180
because

1368
00:59:16,970 --> 00:59:14,400
everybody's you know most of the

1369
00:59:20,150 --> 00:59:16,980
critique comes from people who have been

1370
00:59:21,890 --> 00:59:20,160
in the woods very little if at all

1371
00:59:23,569 --> 00:59:21,900
they're just keyboard people I saw this

1372
00:59:25,910 --> 00:59:23,579
picture that can't be you know I mean

1373
00:59:27,829 --> 00:59:25,920
yeah comparing apples to you know

1374
00:59:29,870 --> 00:59:27,839
rutabagas you're not even close what

1375
00:59:32,809 --> 00:59:29,880
what's your comparison based on you know

1376
00:59:35,049 --> 00:59:32,819
it's just it's so silly and you know in

1377
00:59:39,109 --> 00:59:35,059
all of this turmoil that we create

1378
00:59:42,230 --> 00:59:39,119
amongst our investigator selves

1379
00:59:44,809 --> 00:59:42,240
Keeps Us in the Bog because the more

1380
00:59:47,089 --> 00:59:44,819
turmoil we have and we're generating the

1381
00:59:49,069 --> 00:59:47,099
less likely we're going to get to find

1382
00:59:51,589 --> 00:59:49,079
anything out because we're too busy

1383
00:59:54,049 --> 00:59:51,599
trying to be number one and point our

1384
00:59:56,450 --> 00:59:54,059
finger at him and her and you're not no

1385
00:59:58,910 --> 00:59:56,460
good you're my friend I like you and I

1386
01:00:01,430 --> 00:59:58,920
don't like you and I don't like you

1387
01:00:04,609 --> 01:00:01,440
God I got I quit doing that stuff like

1388
01:00:06,049 --> 01:00:04,619
you know 50 years ago Jesus come on

1389
01:00:07,730 --> 01:00:06,059
people you know it's just very

1390
01:00:09,829 --> 01:00:07,740
frustrating you know what I mean that is

1391
01:00:12,890 --> 01:00:09,839
it is all right well you know and that's

1392
01:00:15,049 --> 01:00:12,900
why I appreciate the team because I mean

1393
01:00:16,849 --> 01:00:15,059
we got a bunch of people on there

1394
01:00:18,470 --> 01:00:16,859
that are doing a lot of what I'm not

1395
01:00:20,510 --> 01:00:18,480
doing because I'm not out in the field

1396
01:00:22,609 --> 01:00:20,520
very rarely anymore

1397
01:00:25,490 --> 01:00:22,619
uh though I'm going to try to eventually

1398
01:00:26,990 --> 01:00:25,500
but you know I'm I'm behind the keyboard

1399
01:00:29,329 --> 01:00:27,000
doing all kinds of other stuff and

1400
01:00:31,069 --> 01:00:29,339
taking calls and stuff but yeah I got

1401
01:00:34,250 --> 01:00:31,079
you know I got folks like you and all

1402
01:00:37,309 --> 01:00:34,260
going out there and and with boots in

1403
01:00:40,549 --> 01:00:37,319
the ground and looking into cases and uh

1404
01:00:43,910 --> 01:00:40,559
I think it works but

1405
01:00:45,829 --> 01:00:43,920
well it just came to a head that did a

1406
01:00:48,250 --> 01:00:45,839
few days ago and it was just

1407
01:00:51,349 --> 01:00:48,260
so out of line you know

1408
01:00:53,690 --> 01:00:51,359
this person's calling my stuff crap and

1409
01:00:55,370 --> 01:00:53,700
I went and looked at his and other

1410
01:00:57,109 --> 01:00:55,380
people's stuff that were all chiming in

1411
01:00:59,690 --> 01:00:57,119
oh yeah that's that's garbage you're

1412
01:01:02,210 --> 01:00:59,700
right you're right they all got garbage

1413
01:01:05,270 --> 01:01:02,220
I mean they're all passing the same crap

1414
01:01:08,510 --> 01:01:05,280
around and saying the same stuff they're

1415
01:01:10,970 --> 01:01:08,520
it's not productive it's not mature it's

1416
01:01:13,549 --> 01:01:10,980
not like how do we

1417
01:01:15,230 --> 01:01:13,559
talk to one another and come to an

1418
01:01:16,849 --> 01:01:15,240
agreement like well I believe this I

1419
01:01:18,349 --> 01:01:16,859
believe this might be you know you don't

1420
01:01:20,690 --> 01:01:18,359
have to like somebody's work but you can

1421
01:01:22,609 --> 01:01:20,700
just you can question and debate how

1422
01:01:25,150 --> 01:01:22,619
they arrived in an opinion instead of

1423
01:01:27,230 --> 01:01:25,160
you're full of crap that's bull

1424
01:01:28,730 --> 01:01:27,240
you know I mean you might as well just

1425
01:01:31,309 --> 01:01:28,740
flip them off and kill their mothers you

1426
01:01:33,650 --> 01:01:31,319
know I mean what what what what's going

1427
01:01:35,630 --> 01:01:33,660
to stop you from just

1428
01:01:37,430 --> 01:01:35,640
driving by and throwing a Molotov

1429
01:01:40,670 --> 01:01:37,440
cocktail through my window you know I

1430
01:01:42,230 --> 01:01:40,680
mean you the the hate is just palatable

1431
01:01:44,150 --> 01:01:42,240
and everybody here knows what I'm

1432
01:01:47,210 --> 01:01:44,160
talking about you know what do you think

1433
01:01:49,069 --> 01:01:47,220
of it or not uh it's another thing but

1434
01:01:50,690 --> 01:01:49,079
everybody probably has or you see and

1435
01:01:53,089 --> 01:01:50,700
you go oh my God what's wrong with that

1436
01:01:56,089 --> 01:01:53,099
guy or that girl or woman you know it's

1437
01:01:59,150 --> 01:01:56,099
just it's just bizarre is it is it that

1438
01:02:02,030 --> 01:01:59,160
big a deal you know

1439
01:02:03,650 --> 01:02:02,040
well it is it is

1440
01:02:05,089 --> 01:02:03,660
yeah there's a book

1441
01:02:07,250 --> 01:02:05,099
that's a good book

1442
01:02:09,789 --> 01:02:07,260
oh wait maybe it's not I know the guy

1443
01:02:12,170 --> 01:02:09,799
that wrote that I think he's on drugs

1444
01:02:14,089 --> 01:02:12,180
you know what I mean so but you know

1445
01:02:15,589 --> 01:02:14,099
I've written three books and they're all

1446
01:02:17,630 --> 01:02:15,599
just

1447
01:02:20,930 --> 01:02:17,640
mostly

1448
01:02:22,490 --> 01:02:20,940
events from my Witnesses you know right

1449
01:02:24,190 --> 01:02:22,500
the last book the one I just put out

1450
01:02:27,470 --> 01:02:24,200
it's got

1451
01:02:30,890 --> 01:02:27,480
habituation and visitation paranormal

1452
01:02:33,589 --> 01:02:30,900
you know a very very little of it is

1453
01:02:36,170 --> 01:02:33,599
your aper your meat and potato I saw one

1454
01:02:38,750 --> 01:02:36,180
cross the road you know I've got a woman

1455
01:02:42,289 --> 01:02:38,760
who saw you know uh five Sasquatch herd

1456
01:02:43,490 --> 01:02:42,299
60 70 deer and uh kill five and they all

1457
01:02:45,289 --> 01:02:43,500
walk down with a deer over their

1458
01:02:46,670 --> 01:02:45,299
shoulder watch one night at midnight

1459
01:02:48,410 --> 01:02:46,680
while she was waiting for her friends to

1460
01:02:51,049 --> 01:02:48,420
meet her in the middle of the woods you

1461
01:02:54,289 --> 01:02:51,059
know I mean there's stuff going on that

1462
01:02:56,089 --> 01:02:54,299
people need to know about and we're busy

1463
01:02:57,710 --> 01:02:56,099
fighting amongst ourselves we're not

1464
01:02:59,870 --> 01:02:57,720
doing our Witnesses any favors or

1465
01:03:02,930 --> 01:02:59,880
anything like that you know

1466
01:03:05,510 --> 01:03:02,940
um but you know you know it's not

1467
01:03:07,849 --> 01:03:05,520
healthy for what we're trying to get

1468
01:03:09,289 --> 01:03:07,859
done it's just not not healthy and you

1469
01:03:12,109 --> 01:03:09,299
know some of the worst offenders or

1470
01:03:16,789 --> 01:03:14,930
uh got a question for Chad what's the

1471
01:03:19,190 --> 01:03:16,799
weirdest thing you've experienced in the

1472
01:03:27,349 --> 01:03:21,950
oh geez

1473
01:03:31,849 --> 01:03:29,089
I would say like the stuff that's

1474
01:03:33,890 --> 01:03:31,859
happened to me well I don't know the one

1475
01:03:36,530 --> 01:03:33,900
when we were down in Maryland in a place

1476
01:03:40,490 --> 01:03:36,540
we call gazoo's Woods

1477
01:03:42,109 --> 01:03:40,500
and I made the folkloric mistake of

1478
01:03:45,109 --> 01:03:42,119
asking for something which you normally

1479
01:03:48,470 --> 01:03:45,119
shouldn't do oh wow and and Tim cringed

1480
01:03:51,349 --> 01:03:48,480
when I did it I bet he did and the next

1481
01:03:53,390 --> 01:03:51,359
thing you know we had this weird just it

1482
01:03:55,730 --> 01:03:53,400
was almost like a it was like a

1483
01:03:57,890 --> 01:03:55,740
combination of like an eagle scream and

1484
01:04:01,490 --> 01:03:57,900
some other odd animal it was just

1485
01:04:04,910 --> 01:04:01,500
bizarre it was just this weird noise

1486
01:04:07,670 --> 01:04:04,920
and I was just like yeah it's time to go

1487
01:04:08,690 --> 01:04:07,680
but I would say recently the weirdest

1488
01:04:11,030 --> 01:04:08,700
one

1489
01:04:13,849 --> 01:04:11,040
had to be definitely when I was standing

1490
01:04:16,069 --> 01:04:13,859
there and I was recording my friend

1491
01:04:17,990 --> 01:04:16,079
Caleb at the campfire and I just kind of

1492
01:04:20,809 --> 01:04:18,000
looked up to my friend's tent and I just

1493
01:04:23,690 --> 01:04:20,819
saw that big gray shape Loom up

1494
01:04:26,569 --> 01:04:23,700
that that was the one I would say was

1495
01:04:28,309 --> 01:04:26,579
kind of the weirdest one you know

1496
01:04:30,770 --> 01:04:28,319
because that

1497
01:04:32,569 --> 01:04:30,780
that spooked me that was one of the few

1498
01:04:34,490 --> 01:04:32,579
times I've actually been spooked and

1499
01:04:37,490 --> 01:04:34,500
then and then

1500
01:04:39,049 --> 01:04:37,500
yeah yeah and then when you see like a

1501
01:04:40,609 --> 01:04:39,059
set of red eyes you're looking at them

1502
01:04:42,589 --> 01:04:40,619
and then you literally see them blink

1503
01:04:45,410 --> 01:04:42,599
slowly like a cat

1504
01:04:46,849 --> 01:04:45,420
and it's up in the tree that's bizarre

1505
01:04:52,849 --> 01:04:46,859
too so

1506
01:04:57,049 --> 01:04:55,250
but yeah here's here's an interesting

1507
01:04:59,690 --> 01:04:57,059
question

1508
01:05:02,150 --> 01:04:59,700
um king of huku Mundo have you guys

1509
01:05:05,569 --> 01:05:02,160
heard of a Canadian saying he has a

1510
01:05:08,089 --> 01:05:05,579
Bigfoot body I have heard so many people

1511
01:05:12,130 --> 01:05:08,099
who have claimed to have Bigfoot bodies

1512
01:05:15,230 --> 01:05:12,140
over the past 50 years I mean 45 years

1513
01:05:17,690 --> 01:05:15,240
uh it just drives me crazy

1514
01:05:21,410 --> 01:05:17,700
of course everybody remembers the

1515
01:05:23,630 --> 01:05:21,420
Georgia Bigfoot Fiasco and yeah and

1516
01:05:25,190 --> 01:05:23,640
we've had a few others in the past as

1517
01:05:26,930 --> 01:05:25,200
well that was probably the most

1518
01:05:28,430 --> 01:05:26,940
notorious

1519
01:05:31,069 --> 01:05:28,440
but uh

1520
01:05:31,910 --> 01:05:31,079
as far as a Canadian guy I don't know I

1521
01:05:33,950 --> 01:05:31,920
don't know

1522
01:05:35,450 --> 01:05:33,960
there's a lot of people who see talking

1523
01:05:38,089 --> 01:05:35,460
about the

1524
01:05:41,270 --> 01:05:38,099
dog trainer

1525
01:05:43,370 --> 01:05:41,280
that has all those videos oh I know who

1526
01:05:47,030 --> 01:05:43,380
you're talking about is that was he in

1527
01:05:50,450 --> 01:05:47,040
Canada yeah he is in Canada I think he

1528
01:05:52,010 --> 01:05:50,460
he has one on ice and he'll fall out and

1529
01:05:55,210 --> 01:05:52,020
show you parts of it and then put it

1530
01:06:00,530 --> 01:05:57,890
I'm trying to think of his name but he's

1531
01:06:04,609 --> 01:06:00,540
got a if you go on YouTube and look for

1532
01:06:07,609 --> 01:06:04,619
dog trainer Sasquatch videos you might

1533
01:06:09,890 --> 01:06:07,619
find the guy and he's

1534
01:06:11,230 --> 01:06:09,900
nuts I mean he is there's something

1535
01:06:15,049 --> 01:06:11,240
wrong

1536
01:06:16,730 --> 01:06:15,059
it is an awesome looking

1537
01:06:19,849 --> 01:06:16,740
body

1538
01:06:22,609 --> 01:06:19,859
but I don't believe it's yeah actually

1539
01:06:24,650 --> 01:06:22,619
but this is when his dad I think killed

1540
01:06:27,650 --> 01:06:24,660
or captured or something a long time ago

1541
01:06:30,470 --> 01:06:27,660
really got two vocal cords and two

1542
01:06:32,089 --> 01:06:30,480
larynx's that's kind of like all this

1543
01:06:33,349 --> 01:06:32,099
other stuff but yeah you know who I'm

1544
01:06:34,549 --> 01:06:33,359
talking about I can't remember the guy's

1545
01:06:36,349 --> 01:06:34,559
name

1546
01:06:40,430 --> 01:06:36,359
I think I know who you're talking about

1547
01:06:43,849 --> 01:06:40,440
he trains dogs or he's a dog Border and

1548
01:06:45,950 --> 01:06:43,859
that's what he does but he's also has a

1549
01:06:48,410 --> 01:06:45,960
Sasquatch on ice and it keeps Frozen in

1550
01:06:50,150 --> 01:06:48,420
his property I tell you what if I had a

1551
01:06:52,250 --> 01:06:50,160
Sasquatch if I came across the Sasquatch

1552
01:06:53,750 --> 01:06:52,260
body make sure first it wasn't some some

1553
01:06:56,210 --> 01:06:53,760
person and

1554
01:06:57,829 --> 01:06:56,220
pretending to be one but I would take

1555
01:06:59,630 --> 01:06:57,839
that thing load up my truck and I'd be

1556
01:07:01,069 --> 01:06:59,640
driving down the Smithsonian that day

1557
01:07:04,730 --> 01:07:01,079
you know what I mean

1558
01:07:06,230 --> 01:07:04,740
so I went through it in the freezer

1559
01:07:08,390 --> 01:07:06,240
well

1560
01:07:10,130 --> 01:07:08,400
you know you hear all these stories I

1561
01:07:14,630 --> 01:07:10,140
mean I

1562
01:07:18,529 --> 01:07:16,430
yeah I've heard too many people say

1563
01:07:21,109 --> 01:07:18,539
they've had Bigfoot bodies and this and

1564
01:07:22,970 --> 01:07:21,119
that yeah it just kind of goes over my

1565
01:07:24,529 --> 01:07:22,980
head now because uh

1566
01:07:27,470 --> 01:07:24,539
you know

1567
01:07:29,270 --> 01:07:27,480
that that whole Georgia Bigfoot thing

1568
01:07:31,490 --> 01:07:29,280
and then the same guy saying he killed

1569
01:07:34,190 --> 01:07:31,500
one down in Houston I mean

1570
01:07:36,289 --> 01:07:34,200
you know what a joke yeah I'm looking at

1571
01:07:38,750 --> 01:07:36,299
the guy Now dog trainer with Sasquatch I

1572
01:07:41,089 --> 01:07:38,760
Googled it uh Bigfoot used me to have a

1573
01:07:43,430 --> 01:07:41,099
baby grown man cries

1574
01:07:46,490 --> 01:07:43,440
Bigfoot and I have it he has a severed

1575
01:07:48,890 --> 01:07:46,500
head I'm looking at all the stuff oh I

1576
01:07:50,270 --> 01:07:48,900
know which one you're talking about yeah

1577
01:07:51,890 --> 01:07:50,280
I can't remember is that the guy with

1578
01:07:54,410 --> 01:07:51,900
the buffalo head

1579
01:07:56,029 --> 01:07:54,420
huh is that the guy that has the Frozen

1580
01:07:58,609 --> 01:07:56,039
buffalo head

1581
01:08:00,410 --> 01:07:58,619
well it looks like a Sasquatch head or a

1582
01:08:03,309 --> 01:08:00,420
bad model it looks like it's about you

1583
01:08:07,010 --> 01:08:03,319
know 20 feet long here

1584
01:08:09,109 --> 01:08:07,020
Peter Kane I think is his name Bigfoot

1585
01:08:13,190 --> 01:08:09,119
forced me to do it he's got all kinds of

1586
01:08:15,410 --> 01:08:13,200
stories oh my God uh but yeah uh he's a

1587
01:08:16,970 --> 01:08:15,420
content creator oh that's the guy that's

1588
01:08:20,150 --> 01:08:16,980
it that's the one I got right there

1589
01:08:24,530 --> 01:08:20,160
that's it that's the he that head looks

1590
01:08:28,070 --> 01:08:24,540
like a it looks like a dead bison's head

1591
01:08:31,309 --> 01:08:28,080
yeah it's it's bizarre it's got like 27

1592
01:08:35,749 --> 01:08:31,319
rows of teeth yeah I can't remember

1593
01:08:37,789 --> 01:08:35,759
but see this guy is comic relief but

1594
01:08:40,309 --> 01:08:37,799
when people who don't know anything

1595
01:08:43,249 --> 01:08:40,319
about Sasquatch see this

1596
01:08:44,990 --> 01:08:43,259
we look like buffoons oh I know your

1597
01:08:48,550 --> 01:08:45,000
research because this is the kind of

1598
01:08:50,930 --> 01:08:48,560
stuff I mean they lump you in with it

1599
01:08:53,150 --> 01:08:50,940
that's the guy thanks man that was good

1600
01:08:55,189 --> 01:08:53,160
one yeah that was good yeah I I I I knew

1601
01:09:00,610 --> 01:08:55,199
who it was now yeah that's the guy that

1602
01:09:05,749 --> 01:09:03,050
yeah it looks like yeah it's a bison hit

1603
01:09:07,849 --> 01:09:05,759
that's exactly what it is

1604
01:09:10,910 --> 01:09:07,859
because I called him out on it about two

1605
01:09:13,910 --> 01:09:10,920
years ago and you know

1606
01:09:19,789 --> 01:09:13,920
so that that's crazy yeah he's had it

1607
01:09:24,050 --> 01:09:21,950
keep waiting cowboy

1608
01:09:26,390 --> 01:09:24,060
but you know that kind of stuff does

1609
01:09:27,829 --> 01:09:26,400
hurt us yeah because you have the real

1610
01:09:29,809 --> 01:09:27,839
thing

1611
01:09:31,209 --> 01:09:29,819
oh

1612
01:09:34,130 --> 01:09:31,219
you know

1613
01:09:35,990 --> 01:09:34,140
so that that is him it's just funny man

1614
01:09:38,030 --> 01:09:36,000
he was crying about you know getting

1615
01:09:40,789 --> 01:09:38,040
assaulted sexually assaulted and I mean

1616
01:09:44,689 --> 01:09:40,799
it's just like yeah I didn't hear all

1617
01:09:46,490 --> 01:09:44,699
that yeah it's in there yeah Bigfoot

1618
01:09:47,829 --> 01:09:46,500
used to have a baby read that one that's

1619
01:09:50,269 --> 01:09:47,839
a pretty good one

1620
01:09:52,610 --> 01:09:50,279
yeah so that's what we're up against you

1621
01:09:55,729 --> 01:09:52,620
know yeah you know we're lumped in with

1622
01:09:57,890 --> 01:09:55,739
because it's crazy people believe in it

1623
01:10:00,709 --> 01:09:57,900
it's a fake it's a hoax it doesn't exist

1624
01:10:02,750 --> 01:10:00,719
anyway periods are all chasing rainbows

1625
01:10:04,490 --> 01:10:02,760
and so when somebody like that pops up

1626
01:10:06,350 --> 01:10:04,500
he gets all the attention because well

1627
01:10:08,150 --> 01:10:06,360
well look at that that's wild that's

1628
01:10:10,070 --> 01:10:08,160
crazy you know

1629
01:10:12,229 --> 01:10:10,080
he ought to be on uh you know tonight's

1630
01:10:14,330 --> 01:10:12,239
show I mean yeah

1631
01:10:15,830 --> 01:10:14,340
that's crazy stuff but that hurts us

1632
01:10:18,530 --> 01:10:15,840
that kind of stuff hurts us just like

1633
01:10:21,290 --> 01:10:18,540
the infighting does you know

1634
01:10:22,669 --> 01:10:21,300
the the guy's making a mockery of it I

1635
01:10:26,570 --> 01:10:22,679
would create

1636
01:10:28,310 --> 01:10:26,580
to think that he is actually got one I

1637
01:10:30,770 --> 01:10:28,320
would really probably jump off a

1638
01:10:32,570 --> 01:10:30,780
building if I knew that it was legit I

1639
01:10:34,970 --> 01:10:32,580
just

1640
01:10:36,890 --> 01:10:34,980
couldn't Carter uh here's one for you

1641
01:10:39,530 --> 01:10:36,900
from Vincent when was the moment you

1642
01:10:41,290 --> 01:10:39,540
made sure it made you sure if Bigfoot

1643
01:10:45,169 --> 01:10:41,300
exists

1644
01:10:49,550 --> 01:10:45,179
when I was leading an expedition

1645
01:10:52,130 --> 01:10:49,560
forbid for BFRO 2014

1646
01:10:55,790 --> 01:10:52,140
Missouri

1647
01:10:57,590 --> 01:10:55,800
I watched one flat out disappear while I

1648
01:11:00,229 --> 01:10:57,600
was watching it on thermal camera it

1649
01:11:01,970 --> 01:11:00,239
came around a corner

1650
01:11:04,610 --> 01:11:01,980
did not know we were there because we

1651
01:11:06,050 --> 01:11:04,620
were being quiet we were maintaining

1652
01:11:08,149 --> 01:11:06,060
radio silence because we had a party

1653
01:11:10,970 --> 01:11:08,159
that was lost so we were just

1654
01:11:14,090 --> 01:11:10,980
tape you're just watching the forest for

1655
01:11:16,010 --> 01:11:14,100
the glow so we could see them and this

1656
01:11:19,970 --> 01:11:16,020
Sasquatch walked around the corner it

1657
01:11:22,970 --> 01:11:19,980
did not see us and it just poof it just

1658
01:11:24,709 --> 01:11:22,980
vanished like a flash bug went off I was

1659
01:11:26,810 --> 01:11:24,719
watching it on my thermal beautiful

1660
01:11:29,149 --> 01:11:26,820
thermal signature coming around the

1661
01:11:31,250 --> 01:11:29,159
curve and poof took one step two step

1662
01:11:34,430 --> 01:11:31,260
Second Step boom it was gone just like

1663
01:11:37,490 --> 01:11:34,440
that really I was with the April crab so

1664
01:11:40,070 --> 01:11:37,500
at that point I was baptized and I went

1665
01:11:42,290 --> 01:11:40,080
from apes only because I'd just gotten

1666
01:11:44,450 --> 01:11:42,300
into it at that time to

1667
01:11:46,189 --> 01:11:44,460
okay we're on to something else here

1668
01:11:48,830 --> 01:11:46,199
this this is bizarre

1669
01:11:51,350 --> 01:11:48,840
well that was it for me I mean that's my

1670
01:11:53,090 --> 01:11:51,360
aha moment and no one will ever convince

1671
01:11:55,070 --> 01:11:53,100
me they're probably flesh and blood but

1672
01:11:57,229 --> 01:11:55,080
they probably have the ability to

1673
01:12:00,290 --> 01:11:57,239
operate in both planes of existence you

1674
01:12:02,750 --> 01:12:00,300
know all Dimensions all yeah yeah I mean

1675
01:12:06,530 --> 01:12:02,760
that's I mean of course that's what I

1676
01:12:08,510 --> 01:12:06,540
think uh Tommy let me ask you this

1677
01:12:09,470 --> 01:12:08,520
uh now you've been with us about a year

1678
01:12:11,390 --> 01:12:09,480
now

1679
01:12:13,669 --> 01:12:11,400
you weren't really into all this stuff

1680
01:12:16,370 --> 01:12:13,679
you you don't you've done you're a

1681
01:12:19,149 --> 01:12:16,380
hunter you've been Outdoorsman a lot for

1682
01:12:22,669 --> 01:12:19,159
a long time all your life

1683
01:12:25,310 --> 01:12:22,679
what phenomena

1684
01:12:28,790 --> 01:12:25,320
as far as Cryptids go do you believe and

1685
01:12:32,450 --> 01:12:30,709
you know if you'd asked me that two

1686
01:12:33,890 --> 01:12:32,460
years ago I said I don't believe in any

1687
01:12:35,510 --> 01:12:33,900
of it

1688
01:12:38,330 --> 01:12:35,520
but uh

1689
01:12:40,310 --> 01:12:38,340
the that that all changes the more you

1690
01:12:42,770 --> 01:12:40,320
see the more you experience the more you

1691
01:12:46,310 --> 01:12:42,780
talk to that that all has changed I I

1692
01:12:48,350 --> 01:12:46,320
mean to me now anything's on the table

1693
01:12:49,850 --> 01:12:48,360
I still personally have never seen a

1694
01:12:52,850 --> 01:12:49,860
Bigfoot

1695
01:12:55,070 --> 01:12:52,860
or a Cryptid of any type but

1696
01:12:58,790 --> 01:12:55,080
it's it's turned pretty wild the past

1697
01:13:08,750 --> 01:13:01,750
yeah

1698
01:13:10,910 --> 01:13:08,760
I've been in these Woods for 35 years

1699
01:13:13,189 --> 01:13:10,920
I've never seen one if they existed I'd

1700
01:13:15,410 --> 01:13:13,199
have seen it they don't exist then you

1701
01:13:18,050 --> 01:13:15,420
get a call a couple months later uh can

1702
01:13:20,149 --> 01:13:18,060
we talk you know because they they've

1703
01:13:22,430 --> 01:13:20,159
had the aha moment you know and you hear

1704
01:13:26,209 --> 01:13:22,440
that from a lot of people and I and I I

1705
01:13:29,209 --> 01:13:26,219
understand if you we are all taught from

1706
01:13:31,550 --> 01:13:29,219
the day we get out of the birth canal

1707
01:13:33,530 --> 01:13:31,560
how the world is what exists and what

1708
01:13:36,709 --> 01:13:33,540
doesn't so the first 20 years of your

1709
01:13:38,990 --> 01:13:36,719
life you're told how the world is

1710
01:13:41,390 --> 01:13:39,000
your books your teachers your professors

1711
01:13:43,189 --> 01:13:41,400
everybody is handing books and they just

1712
01:13:46,669 --> 01:13:43,199
tell you how things are

1713
01:13:48,890 --> 01:13:46,679
so by the time you're 20 to 22 if you go

1714
01:13:50,330 --> 01:13:48,900
to college maybe 23 or four you know

1715
01:13:53,510 --> 01:13:50,340
graduate

1716
01:13:56,270 --> 01:13:53,520
you've been brainwashed or conditioned

1717
01:13:58,550 --> 01:13:56,280
for 20 some idea the first 20 years of

1718
01:14:00,890 --> 01:13:58,560
your life your formative years what's

1719
01:14:03,770 --> 01:14:00,900
what exists what doesn't how the world

1720
01:14:05,689 --> 01:14:03,780
is and how it isn't that's all you know

1721
01:14:08,149 --> 01:14:05,699
you're trusting the people who teach you

1722
01:14:10,669 --> 01:14:08,159
and talk to you and show you things that

1723
01:14:12,350 --> 01:14:10,679
this is how the world is okay I believe

1724
01:14:14,149 --> 01:14:12,360
it

1725
01:14:16,430 --> 01:14:14,159
and I was

1726
01:14:18,169 --> 01:14:16,440
I was that guy that I've hunted the same

1727
01:14:20,510 --> 01:14:18,179
property my

1728
01:14:23,149 --> 01:14:20,520
my entire life and never experienced

1729
01:14:24,950 --> 01:14:23,159
anything but then last year one day

1730
01:14:27,830 --> 01:14:24,960
sitting in a deer stand

1731
01:14:31,130 --> 01:14:27,840
beautiful calm day nothing around

1732
01:14:32,750 --> 01:14:31,140
there was a a brilliant blue flashing

1733
01:14:34,910 --> 01:14:32,760
light that came from behind me no

1734
01:14:39,290 --> 01:14:34,920
Thunder no other noise

1735
01:14:41,510 --> 01:14:39,300
just a giant blue flashlight just

1736
01:14:44,149 --> 01:14:41,520
I I can't even begin to guess what that

1737
01:14:46,490 --> 01:14:44,159
was I don't know

1738
01:14:48,890 --> 01:14:46,500
interesting but what does it do to your

1739
01:14:51,530 --> 01:14:48,900
belief system

1740
01:14:54,229 --> 01:14:51,540
has it elevated you as it moves you up a

1741
01:14:56,930 --> 01:14:54,239
little a bit I mean definitely at least

1742
01:14:58,910 --> 01:14:56,940
have an open mind about it because it's

1743
01:15:01,310 --> 01:14:58,920
hard if you've been taught

1744
01:15:03,110 --> 01:15:01,320
these things can't happen and you see it

1745
01:15:04,790 --> 01:15:03,120
like the blue orbs my wife saw a blue

1746
01:15:07,490 --> 01:15:04,800
orb in our bedroom and I was having an

1747
01:15:09,950 --> 01:15:07,500
experience 325 miles away with a clan

1748
01:15:12,590 --> 01:15:09,960
she saw a blue orb flying through our

1749
01:15:14,570 --> 01:15:12,600
bedroom it nearly The Identical time

1750
01:15:15,890 --> 01:15:14,580
that I was having an event in in

1751
01:15:18,830 --> 01:15:15,900
Illinois

1752
01:15:21,350 --> 01:15:18,840
many hundreds of miles away so

1753
01:15:22,550 --> 01:15:21,360
at some point you have to go okay all

1754
01:15:24,709 --> 01:15:22,560
this weirdness

1755
01:15:26,330 --> 01:15:24,719
is there's something

1756
01:15:29,030 --> 01:15:26,340
going on

1757
01:15:30,470 --> 01:15:29,040
you know as long as it gives you a peek

1758
01:15:32,090 --> 01:15:30,480
into what's maybe going on because

1759
01:15:33,350 --> 01:15:32,100
that's all it took for me you know I saw

1760
01:15:35,390 --> 01:15:33,360
that I'm going

1761
01:15:37,910 --> 01:15:35,400
that just disappeared

1762
01:15:40,130 --> 01:15:37,920
what you know I wasn't drunk I wasn't

1763
01:15:43,030 --> 01:15:40,140
stoned my equipment was top-notch a nice

1764
01:15:45,590 --> 01:15:43,040
clear camera I mean everything was fine

1765
01:15:46,850 --> 01:15:45,600
and all of a sudden I'm watching this

1766
01:15:50,330 --> 01:15:46,860
thing I go

1767
01:15:51,830 --> 01:15:50,340
what you know it changes everything just

1768
01:15:53,810 --> 01:15:51,840
like for you Tommy I mean it just it

1769
01:15:55,010 --> 01:15:53,820
just it changes things it makes you

1770
01:15:56,630 --> 01:15:55,020
think

1771
01:16:00,050 --> 01:15:56,640
differently you don't necessarily

1772
01:16:01,910 --> 01:16:00,060
believe all the way but you're thinking

1773
01:16:03,430 --> 01:16:01,920
you know you're going well I can't

1774
01:16:07,850 --> 01:16:03,440
explain that

1775
01:16:09,709 --> 01:16:07,860
you know maybe you know it's bizarre the

1776
01:16:12,950 --> 01:16:09,719
baptism might take a couple of years

1777
01:16:14,390 --> 01:16:12,960
could take 20 minutes you know it just

1778
01:16:17,090 --> 01:16:14,400
depends on where you're at what happens

1779
01:16:18,890 --> 01:16:17,100
to you and I owe and I say you've always

1780
01:16:21,050 --> 01:16:18,900
got to be a little skeptical because

1781
01:16:23,030 --> 01:16:21,060
you're not you're going to be a sucker

1782
01:16:25,189 --> 01:16:23,040
yeah yeah

1783
01:16:28,970 --> 01:16:25,199
no yeah you got to be you know and I've

1784
01:16:32,330 --> 01:16:28,980
I've flat out asked anybody in my books

1785
01:16:34,070 --> 01:16:32,340
is this real did you stage this this is

1786
01:16:35,870 --> 01:16:34,080
your chance and if I'm standing in front

1787
01:16:38,689 --> 01:16:35,880
of them in person I'm looking them in

1788
01:16:42,410 --> 01:16:38,699
the eye if you're gonna lie to me

1789
01:16:44,090 --> 01:16:42,420
lie to my face let's go did you stage

1790
01:16:46,729 --> 01:16:44,100
this

1791
01:16:48,290 --> 01:16:46,739
you know I mean you just ask them flat

1792
01:16:50,149 --> 01:16:48,300
out most people don't even expect to be

1793
01:16:51,590 --> 01:16:50,159
asked that question you're just going to

1794
01:16:53,630 --> 01:16:51,600
take their word for it so when you ask

1795
01:16:55,970 --> 01:16:53,640
them they go oh that you could tell a

1796
01:16:59,030 --> 01:16:55,980
lot by money a language and the way they

1797
01:17:01,610 --> 01:16:59,040
answer or don't you know

1798
01:17:05,630 --> 01:17:03,350
well guys

1799
01:17:08,810 --> 01:17:05,640
um let's go around the horn and get some

1800
01:17:11,030 --> 01:17:08,820
final thoughts uh Chad you got anything

1801
01:17:13,850 --> 01:17:11,040
to say

1802
01:17:15,770 --> 01:17:13,860
uh no I'm pretty good I mean we've seen

1803
01:17:19,310 --> 01:17:15,780
this really we seem to really cover a

1804
01:17:22,130 --> 01:17:19,320
lot of stuff yeah tonight and uh

1805
01:17:23,209 --> 01:17:22,140
you know I just uh continuing on this

1806
01:17:25,729 --> 01:17:23,219
journey

1807
01:17:28,490 --> 01:17:25,739
with everybody else you know to try and

1808
01:17:30,410 --> 01:17:28,500
pick to try and to me it's not so much

1809
01:17:32,209 --> 01:17:30,420
I'm not trying to solve the big question

1810
01:17:34,070 --> 01:17:32,219
of what all this stuff is

1811
01:17:36,229 --> 01:17:34,080
because personally I don't think we're

1812
01:17:38,870 --> 01:17:36,239
never going to find out and honestly I

1813
01:17:41,689 --> 01:17:38,880
don't think we're meant to find out

1814
01:17:43,669 --> 01:17:41,699
and and if you get close you always have

1815
01:17:45,530 --> 01:17:43,679
that trickster element that kicks in and

1816
01:17:47,209 --> 01:17:45,540
kicks you back

1817
01:17:50,209 --> 01:17:47,219
and uh

1818
01:17:52,910 --> 01:17:50,219
so to me I'm just all about collecting

1819
01:17:55,870 --> 01:17:52,920
people's stories you know

1820
01:17:58,669 --> 01:17:55,880
bringing giving people the opportunity

1821
01:18:01,189 --> 01:17:58,679
to tell their stories and just

1822
01:18:04,250 --> 01:18:01,199
experiencing it you know

1823
01:18:06,229 --> 01:18:04,260
yeah that's pretty much how we go when

1824
01:18:08,209 --> 01:18:06,239
we go out we investigate and even when I

1825
01:18:11,030 --> 01:18:08,219
go out by myself and stuff you know I'm

1826
01:18:12,530 --> 01:18:11,040
not just like you Carter I was I'm not

1827
01:18:13,850 --> 01:18:12,540
out there banging on the trees or

1828
01:18:17,030 --> 01:18:13,860
anything like that I just go out and

1829
01:18:19,130 --> 01:18:17,040
just let it happen yeah and nine times

1830
01:18:20,750 --> 01:18:19,140
out of ten it just it just seems to be

1831
01:18:23,209 --> 01:18:20,760
like especially if me and Tim are in an

1832
01:18:25,430 --> 01:18:23,219
area where that's active and I'd say

1833
01:18:28,130 --> 01:18:25,440
that with air quotes if it's there it's

1834
01:18:30,530 --> 01:18:28,140
going to say hi you know it it seems to

1835
01:18:32,090 --> 01:18:30,540
be that the more you do this we call it

1836
01:18:33,770 --> 01:18:32,100
the eye of Sauron effect you know it's

1837
01:18:36,470 --> 01:18:33,780
like you put the One Ring On And for

1838
01:18:38,930 --> 01:18:36,480
those who know token war and it and it

1839
01:18:40,010 --> 01:18:38,940
likes it likes to say hi and say oh you

1840
01:18:43,430 --> 01:18:40,020
pay attention

1841
01:18:46,370 --> 01:18:43,440
and uh that seems to be the key so

1842
01:18:48,770 --> 01:18:46,380
but yeah but

1843
01:18:51,050 --> 01:18:48,780
how would you tell me what uh you know

1844
01:18:53,149 --> 01:18:51,060
what what do you expect I mean I know

1845
01:18:56,149 --> 01:18:53,159
like I said you you've been with us for

1846
01:18:58,910 --> 01:18:56,159
a year or so you you've read a lot of

1847
01:19:02,149 --> 01:18:58,920
what people have experienced you had a

1848
01:19:04,790 --> 01:19:02,159
few experiences of your own uh what what

1849
01:19:07,970 --> 01:19:04,800
do you expect in the future

1850
01:19:11,570 --> 01:19:07,980
look I have no idea a heck of a ride I'm

1851
01:19:13,850 --> 01:19:11,580
sure well let's hope I

1852
01:19:20,270 --> 01:19:13,860
I

1853
01:19:22,430 --> 01:19:20,280
Chad said just to go out in the woods

1854
01:19:25,610 --> 01:19:22,440
and be out and about and you know

1855
01:19:28,130 --> 01:19:25,620
whatever happens happens

1856
01:19:30,410 --> 01:19:28,140
I I'm I'm content just to spend the time

1857
01:19:34,010 --> 01:19:30,420
in the woods and

1858
01:19:39,410 --> 01:19:35,810
and you Carter I know you've got

1859
01:19:41,090 --> 01:19:39,420
something to say oh yeah well a couple

1860
01:19:43,790 --> 01:19:41,100
things you know

1861
01:19:45,649 --> 01:19:43,800
like Rodney King used to say before he

1862
01:19:48,070 --> 01:19:45,659
passed away can't we all just get along

1863
01:19:50,750 --> 01:19:48,080
you know the

1864
01:19:54,070 --> 01:19:50,760
Cryptid not just Sasquatch but Cryptid

1865
01:19:56,209 --> 01:19:54,080
research in general is

1866
01:19:58,510 --> 01:19:56,219
fraught with

1867
01:20:01,669 --> 01:19:58,520
just hate in

1868
01:20:04,070 --> 01:20:01,679
negativity and everybody wants to be

1869
01:20:07,189 --> 01:20:04,080
somebody everybody wants to be the one

1870
01:20:10,130 --> 01:20:07,199
we're never going to get anywhere if we

1871
01:20:12,890 --> 01:20:10,140
are always fighting each other for

1872
01:20:15,590 --> 01:20:12,900
camera time or Showtime

1873
01:20:18,110 --> 01:20:15,600
or whatever time you know we can't all

1874
01:20:22,910 --> 01:20:18,120
be no we're going to do this together

1875
01:20:24,350 --> 01:20:22,920
you know I mean you know and that that's

1876
01:20:26,330 --> 01:20:24,360
part of what I just want to say

1877
01:20:29,510 --> 01:20:26,340
investigators researchers whatever you

1878
01:20:32,930 --> 01:20:29,520
call yourselves quit trying to be so

1879
01:20:36,530 --> 01:20:32,940
important quit trying to be the one just

1880
01:20:40,070 --> 01:20:36,540
play well with find five researchers you

1881
01:20:41,990 --> 01:20:40,080
agree with not on your beliefs but you

1882
01:20:44,630 --> 01:20:42,000
agree to disagree and you discuss things

1883
01:20:46,189 --> 01:20:44,640
it's easy to do but nobody wants to do

1884
01:20:49,850 --> 01:20:46,199
it you know that that's the frustration

1885
01:20:52,970 --> 01:20:49,860
with me you know myself uh I'm not

1886
01:20:55,729 --> 01:20:52,980
getting out in the woods is often as I

1887
01:20:57,890 --> 01:20:55,739
am my habituation properties because my

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01:21:00,770 --> 01:20:57,900
habituation properties they have uh

1889
01:21:03,169 --> 01:21:00,780
three of the four have got some bizarre

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01:21:06,229 --> 01:21:03,179
awesome stuff going and that's where I'm

1891
01:21:08,630 --> 01:21:06,239
spending my time because they're open

1892
01:21:11,930 --> 01:21:08,640
and they're honest and they want to tell

1893
01:21:14,149 --> 01:21:11,940
you the stories and uh I'm getting some

1894
01:21:16,729 --> 01:21:14,159
incredible and I'm going to call it

1895
01:21:18,890 --> 01:21:16,739
evidence it's evidence of activity I

1896
01:21:20,390 --> 01:21:18,900
won't say it's proof if they exist but

1897
01:21:22,130 --> 01:21:20,400
it's evidence that there's something

1898
01:21:24,590 --> 01:21:22,140
going on and so that's where I'm

1899
01:21:26,030 --> 01:21:24,600
spending my time you know somebody comes

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01:21:28,370 --> 01:21:26,040
comes to you and starts telling you

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01:21:30,410 --> 01:21:28,380
weird stuff listen to them don't just

1902
01:21:31,790 --> 01:21:30,420
tune them out because there might be

1903
01:21:34,189 --> 01:21:31,800
something there

1904
01:21:36,590 --> 01:21:34,199
that's got that's where got me where I'm

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01:21:38,390 --> 01:21:36,600
at I'm five months later

1906
01:21:41,450 --> 01:21:38,400
I might be working on a six I don't even

1907
01:21:44,330 --> 01:21:41,460
want to do another one I'm tired people

1908
01:21:46,490 --> 01:21:44,340
keep calling me I got a call today you

1909
01:21:48,649 --> 01:21:46,500
know for an email not a call it's just

1910
01:21:50,930 --> 01:21:48,659
like it keeps coming in because they

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01:21:52,970 --> 01:21:50,940
know I'll listen so if you're ever

1912
01:21:56,330 --> 01:21:52,980
listening to somebody and you're not in

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01:21:59,030 --> 01:21:56,340
the Paranormal Quantum or Woo which I

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01:22:01,390 --> 01:21:59,040
think is a dirty word Factor listen to

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01:22:04,490 --> 01:22:01,400
some of these people because

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01:22:06,470 --> 01:22:04,500
they got things going on that you're not

1917
01:22:08,870 --> 01:22:06,480
going to hear because everybody laughs

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01:22:10,970 --> 01:22:08,880
at them you know my books are full of

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01:22:12,890 --> 01:22:10,980
that stuff and everybody's laughing at

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01:22:14,590 --> 01:22:12,900
me instead of my Witnesses so I I

1921
01:22:17,030 --> 01:22:14,600
designed it that way

1922
01:22:18,610 --> 01:22:17,040
you know listen to the people that are

1923
01:22:21,830 --> 01:22:18,620
telling you the weird stuff because

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01:22:24,770 --> 01:22:21,840
that's where it's at yeah the secret

1925
01:22:26,330 --> 01:22:24,780
you're at I agree it's always best to

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01:22:29,270 --> 01:22:26,340
listen yeah

1927
01:22:32,689 --> 01:22:29,280
so guys I I appreciate you coming on

1928
01:22:35,350 --> 01:22:32,699
with me tonight and uh we are going to

1929
01:22:38,570 --> 01:22:35,360
do future shows with the team

1930
01:22:42,430 --> 01:22:38,580
and uh you all have a good weekend I

1931
01:22:47,450 --> 01:22:42,440
would talk to you soon all right

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01:22:51,890 --> 01:22:49,970
now if you've had a citing or encounter

1933
01:22:54,110 --> 01:22:51,900
report that you'd like to be considered

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01:22:55,669 --> 01:22:54,120
for the personal report show or post on

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01:22:57,890 --> 01:22:55,679
fam's Monsters

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01:23:01,130 --> 01:22:57,900
um feel free to contact me at my email

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01:23:03,830 --> 01:23:01,140
lawn stricklerfamilismmonsters.com

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01:23:06,530 --> 01:23:03,840
I want to again thank Carter Tommy and

1939
01:23:09,229 --> 01:23:06,540
and Chad for joining me this evening

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01:23:10,790 --> 01:23:09,239
and uh thanks to each and all you uh for

1941
01:23:12,350 --> 01:23:10,800
watching and chatting if you did make a

1942
01:23:14,870 --> 01:23:12,360
donation it's very much appreciated

1943
01:23:16,010 --> 01:23:14,880
please like subscribe share and even

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01:23:18,649 --> 01:23:16,020
comment

1945
01:23:23,149 --> 01:23:18,659
uh so next Friday night

1946
01:23:26,270 --> 01:23:23,159
at 9 00 PM Eastern Time 6 p.m Pacific my

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guest will be the alien Hunter Daryl

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01:23:29,209 --> 01:23:27,420
Sims

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01:23:31,550 --> 01:23:29,219
uh this be the first time I've

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01:23:34,189 --> 01:23:31,560
interviewed Daryl so it should be a very

1951
01:23:36,169 --> 01:23:34,199
informative show so make sure you you

1952
01:23:37,010 --> 01:23:36,179
come in next Friday night and listen to

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01:23:39,649 --> 01:23:37,020
that

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01:23:42,110 --> 01:23:39,659
and stay tuned for a paranormal life of

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01:23:44,689 --> 01:23:42,120
Bernadette McDaniel with her guest Duke

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01:23:46,490 --> 01:23:44,699
Sullivan here on fans of monsters radio

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at 11 PM

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uh eastern time so until we meet again

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